Campaign to Convince Sony to Not use DRM on the PS4

Sunday, May 26th, 2013

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A campaign has sprung up on NeoGAF to try and convince Sony not to use Digital Rights Management (DRM) for the PS4. This started after Geoff Keighley indicated that his sources are telling him that Sony is going to have a DRM system in place. Reaction on NeoGAF was perhaps understandably negative in the thread about the Geoff Keighly PS4 DRM reveal. Within the thread, those claiming to have Sony connections in the industry spoke up, indicating that Sony has not made up their minds 100 percent yet and that people should contact those in charge at Sony via Twitter to let their opinions be known.

So a campaign quickly developed which involves contacting Sony Heads via Twitter and using the Twitter hashtags of #PS4NoDRM and #PS4USEDGAMES.

So what do you think? Will contacting Sony in the fashion have any effect for their plans for the PS4? Perhaps the information is wrong and Sony has no plans to use DRM for the PS4 in the first place? Maybe so, but I suppose it never hurts to try if you are against DRM on consoles and it only takes a minute to send out a tweet on Twitter.

Find out more information here  if you want to particpate.

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  • Nicholas Perry

    If they start on this bullshit I won’t buy one. There is 0 legitimate reason for it to exist on a CLOSED platform CONSOLE.

    For fucks sake this is not Windows and PC. An open platform with Rampant and easily accessible piracy.

  • Heriel

    PS4 like Xbox one, is a third party console… so you need to address this to EA, activision or ubisoft instead of sony.

  • I really hope they don’t do this trend. Its the one reason sort of similar topic to why I don’t want the Xbox One. I was really impressed with the showing of the PS4 even though no console the press conference they had me sold. They didn’t mention anything of this during the confrence a few months ago. Hopefully a clear answer will be soon.

  • Jesse

    You can always fall back on Nintendo if Microosoft and Soony decide to incorporate this idiocracy.

  • Grant Chamberlain

    We will likely learn the truth about what is and what isn’t with the PS4 and Xbox One at E3. Right now I plan to purchase a PS4. Though, if they do implement DRM I likely would not purchase one, just like I currently have no plans to buy a Xbox One, however, at E3 if Microsoft does a 180 on the always online and used games, then I will buy one. If not I’ll stick with the PS3, 360 and my Wii U.

  • I will probably end up getting one eventually but I will wait for games to price drop and also do research before buying one at launch. I usually keep most of my games because I know what I’m buying but there is exceptions like Resident Evil right now which is became crap. mean time I’ll keep enjoying my Wii U and PS3

  • Tara

    Fairly sure that Sony made the most brilliant decision on waiting for Microsoft to reveal their intentions first, and the reactions. This could mean a few things… however, my hope is that Sony saw what got the WORST reactions, and chose not to put them in the PS4.

    Unfortunately, on the same level… I feel that EA will not play along with this if it doesn’t have some form of DRM or “you must pay a fee to play a used game”. Basically I think EA abandoned Nintendo because Nintendo doesn’t have this.

    Honestly, the loss of EA on the Wii U is no loss if that was truly their intention. The only potential loss in this case would be if EA managed to make a really good multiplatform Star Wars game (Another game like Rogue Leader, but to be honest, we know that’s not gonna happen) would be an absolute loss. But I have no expectations on that front anyway, so we’ll see what drama unfolds at E3.

    • indeed :3 but from what i heard after the reveal of the X1 EA backed out of the wiiU hate a lil bit stating that they will make games for the wiiU just not as many or something like that .

    • Spookyryu

      actually nintendo is better without EA around

    • Tara

      I would agree with you, since honestly, EA does not make any games I couldn’t live without… (Like I have a few games EA published, but they’re not my all-time favorite games or anything.)

      However, there are a lot of people who pretty much exclusively buy EA games. And I know you may think that those people aren’t a big loss, but Nintendo needs everyone they can to buy the Wii U. I know the concept is mind-blowing, but there are people who will buy a console simply based on the presence of EA alone, and then some other devs/publishers won’t put content on the Wii U because “Oh, a giant like EA backed out? There’s trouble here!”

    • Spookyryu

      I agree with you, but all the negative press that EA is getting is an oportunity to Nintendo to show a very good games that can change the mind of the gamers, if Nintendo play very good the cards can win the console war

    • Paulo Panganiban

      Umm, exclusively buy EA games? Are you sure that’s because of the EA brand or is it because they are huge sports fanatics?

    • Tara

      I actually did not hear that, but if so, that is good.

      I’m not personally a big fan of EA, but I think their support is crucial to a console doing more than just “getting by”. Though that is truly a shame since I consider most of their business practices to be questionable at best. (And I fully realize Nintendo has survived just fine without them for years, but this cycle can’t keep repeating itself and Nintendo still maintaining it’s success. And this applies to all third parties, not just EA.)

    • Paulo Panganiban

      I don’t think EA would be the ones to have sway on their (Sony’s) decision. EA is no longer the largest, or even second largest publisher anymore. If anything, Ubisoft may have more sway now.

  • Vinicius

    Not helping. If sony is dumb enough to put something like this on their console they need to loose money.

  • “a DRM system”… what exactly does it do? If it’s just a key you need to enter and are able to remove it from your account when you want to sell your game (IIRC Sony said they won’t restrict customers’ ability to sell their games) it’s all fine and alright. If it’s like Microsoft’s system that really annoys the customer then it’s a totally different story.

    • Ryan_oprainfall

      I agree. As long as I can sell my games anywhere I want or give them to a friend without having to worry about fees or getting only a portion of the value then I am ok with DRM. It’s an inconvenience but PCs have been doing it for years now and I deal.

      But what Microsoft is doing, or what all signs indicate they are doing with the XBox One, I will not support.

    • Guy Rainey

      PCs also have the godsend of Steam. In return for the lack of resale, Steam gives stellar deals (25%, 50%, 75%) on a daily basis. Other companies like GameStop (Impulse), Amazon, and others are trying to compete with Steam by replicating the business model. Steam makes me feel like a valued customer. These DRM schemes basically say that I am an enemy, rarely to be bargained with and not to trusted.

  • Guy Rainey

    If Polygon is right, it took less than a week for Microsoft to back away from this deal after consumer backlash. Sony aught to be looking at that, and think that it is not in their best interest to even consider it now. Neither console maker should want to be the only one restricting used games, as that would push at least 90% of those on the fence to the other platform.

    • Lightthrower

      Polygon is the PR mouthpiece of Microsoft, do not believe what they say.

    • Guy Rainey

      Of course not. I won’t believe it until Don Matrick comes out on stage, and says “We will no longer be attempting to restrict used games.” But, IF it is true, that’s something that Sony should be looking at.

  • Coarse

    Don’t forget to speak with your wallets, too. Posting on Twitter and Facebook won’t change much if you bend over and take it when the consoles launch.

  • HeroOfGames16

    From what I’ve heard about the PS4, I guess I’ll stick to my PS3 and perhaps quit console gaming when the age of the PS3 has fully ended unless either the Wii U comes with Smash Brothers and Xenoblade 2 OR if PS4 gets a game that really, really motivates me to get it.

  • dbclick

    Let’s be specific about the type of DRM we are talking about.

    I mean, the PS4 is a closed console, and closed consoles have had DRM schemes in place since the original NES (NES10 chip). For example, the Wii has Nintendo encrypted and signed disc data that doesn’t allow custom discs to play or working copies to be easily produced. Digital games on the Wii (VC and WiiWare) are encrypted with a key specific to your console to prevent you from transferring those to another console. This is DRM as well (and in the case of WiiWare and VC, it’s also console specific and used game DRM).

    The unwanted DRM scheme here is one that treads on the ability to have any genuine physical copy of a game play on any PS4 system without caveats or external dependencies (e.g. Internet access) not necessitated by the game play (e.g. online multiplayer). Let’s be clear about what we’re asking for here. Otherwise we might have them pull a fast one, like Microsoft: “Yes, it plays used games. Oh, forgot to mention there’s a fee to play used games.” (let’s hope they fix that)

    • -Majin-

      Let’s not forget that once this cycle of consoles is over, the console and the games will be useless. And this in a short 6 year time span.

    • dbclick

      Indeed. As soon as the activation servers are offline, installing new games will be a no-go. Even currently installed games would become victim on a console that requires a periodic Internet check-in (like the Xbox One appears to have). Hence the desire to have physical copies play without Internet access of any kind.

      If I had my druthers, they’d distribute server software for the multiplayer component for games as well so players could run and connect to custom servers (run on regular PCs) even years after the official servers go offline.