OPINION: The Witcher 3 and Sexism Claims

Monday, May 2nd, 2016

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The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt | Wilderness

There was a bit of an online kerfuffle last night as the indie developer The Chinese Room posted the following message on their Twitter account.

That was in response to this Twitter post by GameSpot.

So it set off a bit of a firestorm online because this issue has been tinder ready to burn for a while and will remain as such for the foreseeable future. But this gave me an excuse to write an editorial about The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, which I’ve been wanting to do for a while. One of the leading candidates for what I wanted to write about was, in fact, the opposite reason this developer called them out. So, spoiler alert, I will come the the conclusion that it is not a sexist game, which should surprise hardly anyone who has actually spent hundreds of hours in that game. But, first, let me directly respond to that picture.

Is a woman in underwear posing for a motion capture and with android parts sexist? Well, what does it mean to be sexist? According to Merriam-Webster:

Full Definition of sexism

  1. 1:  prejudice or discrimination based on sex; especially:  discrimination against women

  2. 2:  behavior, conditions, or attitudes that foster stereotypes of social roles based on sex

Sex, in this case, means gender. Which is what it meant throughout almost the entire history of that word. Sex, as in coitus, didn’t come into fashion until the end of the 19th century, early 20th century. That is important to understand here because that is one of the primary issues here, gender versus sexuality. Does a woman dressing up in a alluring fashion, in lingerie even, fulfill either of those two definitions of sexism? The one that critics may point to is #2. They may argue that it fosters a stereotype of a social role based on sex. But what would that social role be, to look beautiful while not wearing much? That would be an extreme stretch, and really that would lead more to the desire for diversity based on looks, than gender identity and roles. If women want to have that discussion regarding less beautiful women in games, I’m fine with it, but they would also have to convince me both that men are not idealized as well in video games, and also that expression of fantasy for either gender is somehow a negative thing. So, in my opinion, what we are talking about here is that the picture is sexy, as in physically and sexually attractive, not sexist. But how about The Witcher 3, since they were really making a judgement over that series much more than a single picture from a game that hasn’t even been fully developed.

I will start with the source of many other comments I’ve seen regarding the world of Geralt, and that is with the Witchers themselves. They are boys, only boys, who are given a toxic mix of chemicals that turns them into super-humans, if it doesn’t kill them. This is in order to make them more capable of standing up against the fantastical creatures that populate this version of Old Europe. They end up living much longer than the average human, if they survive the monsters that they must kill for work and the occasional mob uprising. However the chemicals also render them infertile. They are not a monastic order, so many of them will shack up with women routinely, after all those centuries can be long. But because of their duty and their infertility, they are never around for long, let alone the fact that few races are nearly as long lived. To some, I would argue those with limited imaginations, that may seem like a male fantasy. But before I render judgement on that, let’s discuss another creature of the world.

The Witcher III Yennefer

Much like many other fantasy stories, there are also witches in this world. However, these novels and games take that even farther and create the much more interesting, Sorceress. They are extremely powerful women, always women, who’s only rival in power are the Elven Mages not of that world. They tend to band together in a Lodge to teach each other how to better use and better control their powers and then to use their power and influence for safety and wealth. Particularly they are known for being advisers to royalty, both for their power and for their wisdom. They also live for hundreds of years and they are born infertile. Because of their long life, responsibilities, and infertility they tend to go through men (or women) partners and not tie themselves down for long. In this world they are the focus of some mob mentality against witches and witchcraft and magic in general. However a Sorceress is much less likely to fall victim to such mobs as a village witch/cunning woman or pellar/druid is, it will generally take a powerful ruler or a huge, and well equipped, mob to take her down.

PAX Prime 2015 Cosplay

There are a lot of similarities between those two different classes of beings. But, both from the description and from the experience of playing, you would have to say that the Sorceresses are generally more powerful and more in control of their situation than the Witchers are. Not only does that bare itself out in theory, but the three women being cosplayed above factor far more into your hero Geralt’s decisions than any other being in that world. Ciri’s father may rule most of their known world, but there is no question that Ciri herself is much more powerful than her father will ever be, and that Geralt will tear the world asunder for her far more than her father. So, we have discussed briefly the Sorceresses, but what about Ciri. She is the main focus of this story, but not only that, she is the most powerful being in this universe. Not only does she have extreme powers from her elder blood, from the elves, but she is also the first woman to receive full Witcher training, sans the decoctions. So throughout the story, she repeatedly shows that she can handle herself just as much, if not more, than the greatest male hunters. She takes out a boar with her sword, and what happens? What would happen to anyone else, they celebrate and tell tales around the campfire. And it is she that saves the Bloody Baron’s life from the Cockatrice, not his men. Not only that, but even though men help her at times in her overall quest, it is actually her that they all revolve around. She has autonomy and has to decide who is trying to use her and for what purpose. In fact, she does not even have any male romantic interests. For those who didn’t catch the reference, you should know that the rose on her thigh is not from a boyfriend, it was from her girlfriend. Ciri is, in fact, lesbian in both the books and the game.

The Witcher 3 Hearts of Stone | Shani

And that brings us around to, what I believe is, the crux of this whole thing. Ciri was, in fact, only wearing small underwear when you see that tattoo, she is otherwise naked. And she is certainly not the only woman to be naked or nearly naked in the game. In fact, you also see not entirely beautiful women naked as well, in that very scene is a woman that appears to be in her 50s-60s who is just as disrobed as Ciri is, it is a bath house, after all. Not only that, but men are frequently just as naked as women are. You don’t see any less of your Witcher hero than you do his damsels. Geralt can, if you so choose, have sex with 3 sorceresses, a mercenary, a spy, 8 prostitutes, and the above blast from the past (The Witcher), Shani with the first expansion. So, let’s address all of them to see if that is sexist of CD Projeckt RED. The 3 sorceresses are frankly more powerful than Geralt is, and he loves two of them anyway. If he even tries to play them both in order to keep them, he will end up with neither as they totally turn the tables on him at the end. And the other Sorceress that he can get busy with, he doesn’t have to sleep with her in order to finish her quest line, and she ends up dumping him for another Witcher regardless of whether he does or not. The mercenary is one of the greatest warriors in Skellege, of which there are many women warriors there, even more than there were in the source mythologies (which I will get to soon), and she has complete autonomy over her choice of sexual partner and marriage partner. As an aside here, you also find out while you are on Skellege that the female prospect to the crown is much more capable and leads to a much better future for those islands than her brother does. But back to the spy, she has her own agenda, and not only that, but it is she who requests to hook up for the night with Geralt, not him. She comes to him with a job, and she wants to reward him properly if he does it well. But also that is optional, and not only that, but she also steals some of your cards when she leaves in the morning (which you may not have noticed until you fail to get that trophy for all the cards). So that leaves us with the 8 prostitutes.

The Witcher 3 Hearts of Stone | Geralt Branded

I want to address the prostitutes separately in order to make two points about them. The first being that, while there are two brothels in the game, both of them are, in fact, run by women. In both of those cases you cannot sleep with either of the matrons, but the more high class one was a former lover of Geralt’s, and she has aged out of the business now. But she was so good at what she did that she was able to own the highest class brothel in the largest city of this game. Now she pretty much just takes care of the girls, and her establishment, and she also plays a mean game of Gwent. Quite the talented lady, all around. Although Crippled Kate’s is a bit of a dive, it is also run by women and you are tasked a couple times to help them drive out unwanted denizens. But they never pay you with sex, they pay you with money or with their thanks. But the second point about prostitution is more difficult for some people to understand, and it is this; prostitution is not inherently sexist. I know, that may cause disagreements with many, especially some of the feminists, but hear me out. As a societal ill, prostitution is a fairly new thing to be outlawed. Through most of human history it has been completely legal. And one of the primary reasons for this has been because humans are generally monogamous, but also generally not very good at monogamy. The later makes people seek sex outside of one partner, which is a natural thing to desire, and the former means that unpaired women by circumstance have often used their bodies to make a living for themselves and/or their children. This was especially true when women were not given the same schooling or job opportunities that men were, so if your husband or parents died at war there was often little choice or starve. Even now it is used in that function, as well as other things like porn and such. The question then remains, is it sexist in and of itself to sell your body no matter your reasons. Really, how can it be sexist if they are providing a service, for which they are compensated, in order to make a living? If you think a woman selling her body for sex is more morally wrong than a man selling his body to work in a coal mine and die much earlier, then your ethics are clouded by your view of sexuality. Sexism can happen in prostitution, particularly when a pimp uses their influence to squeeze money out of their women while the women do all the work. But you do not see that in this game, and that is also a side issue to prostitution itself. Travel to some other places in the world besides the U.S. and you will find that some of the best brothels are run by women, not men.

The Witcher 3 014

And that is my largest point, sex and sexuality do not equal sexism. In fact, by equating a naked women to sexism, you are far more in risk of the stereotype definition of the word. You are placing Judeo-Christian morality (typically in this environment and discussion) into that definition instead of ethics. And telling a woman that she should cover up and that she should be ashamed of her body, is far more sexist than anything contained here. Body shaming, whether from a man or from a woman, is a moral issue and not an ethical one, and I strongly oppose that moral stance. As well as I oppose the view that men and women are not allowed to take pleasure in the view of a naked woman. So, basically, I feel that The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt one of the least sexist games to be made, especially with this large of a world and this old of a setting, so much so that it strains it’s own historical credibility because the past was far more sexist in general than is portrayed in this story. However, there is also a reason for that, and that will be my last point. What are the mythological sources of this story? Primarily they are sourced from Norse and Celtic mythology. And for anyone who studies as much mythology as I do, they would know that those two mythological systems had some of the strongest women and were the least patriarchal of any of the entire Occident. In fact, when the mythologies of the Levant, which were extremely patriarchal, took over Europe, those two systems were some of the last bastions of the divine female. This was expressed both in the worshiping customs of the goddesses and the passed down fables, but also in the day to day rights of general women in those regions. Foreigners were always shocked at how independent and how many rights those two groups of women had and, even as early as the Roman Empire, scholars wrote about this fact. You will find female goddesses and monsters throughout the world of The Witcher, just as you can find them throughout those mythologies. And that is the final nail in the coffin for the sexist argument. Women are not just prizes to be won in this world, they are not only just heroines as well… they are also monsters just like the men can be. It bears strongly to this discussion that the true rulers of Velen were The Crones, and not the Bloody Baron. And The Crones are not only monsters, but they are also based on a very very old myth. You get the sense that even if Ciri killed two of them, the Crones may be hiding for a while, but they will always come back in the end. They mock The Chinese Room and all others who would denigrate their power.

The Witcher 3 Crones

About William Haderlie

Born in the 1970's, I've been an avid participant for much of video game history. A lifetime of being the sort of supergeek entrenched in the sciences and mathematics has not curbed my appreciation for the artistry of video games, cinema, and especially literature.




  • Darji

    That was probably the best written piece I have seen about this topic. Really great job and exactly my opinion. Especially Yen, Triss and Ciri are being loved by female players also because how different they are but not one of them is less important then the other.

    I just wish that Chinese game room would not get as much popularity as they got for these comments. They are also the ones who compared Quiet in MGSV with Nazi Propaganda….

    http://i.imgur.com/CVCjBrH.jpg

    But seriously great Job.

    • Kudan

      Wow, that’s insane.

  • Dgnfly

    This madness that is SJW/Feminist is making this world go insane, they should all just be outlawed as terrorist organisations considering they aren’t on the side of sanity or true justice they are on the side of blind justice.

  • Kudan

    Well said good man. Can’t help but love the women in this games, it’s like they don’t even bother playing the games and judge this images in the most typical, expected way.

  • blackice85

    Well said. It’s amazing to me how they’re twisting any depiction of women into being ‘sexist’.

  • Wolfe

    Great article. One that apparently needed to be written in this age of PC witch-hunting.

  • Mr0303

    The Chinese Room just gave us a lesson of how to ruin your professional credibility in a single Tweet.

    • blackice85

      I don’t even understand what they were expecting as a response. What would they accomplish with making such an accusation, even if true? No reason to pick a fight with a fellow developer.

    • Mr0303

      I see it as a combination of virtue signalling and victim complex. They want to criticise a well loved developer for what they consider sexism (which of course is utter bollocks) and simultaneously present themselves as a minority developer doing the right kind of games and an underdog.

  • William Haderlie

    Thanks for the responses everyone. It’s nice when your work is appreciated.

  • PanurgeJr

    Jesus fucking Christ where do I even begin?

    Let me just begin by saying that since I know how anti-censorship everyone here is, I will not censor myself. You would never want to censor me, right?

    Right?

    And in the spirit of honesty, I just felt like trolling, and Operation Rainfall has become the first place I check. Congratulations! You’ve outranked Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

    So anyway…I saw that someone at Operation Rainfall has decided to write an opinion on sexism. When I saw that I got a smile on my face as big as when I got an AT-AT for Christmas when I was eight years old. Certainly both the opinion and the comments would be gold, sheer gold.

    I was not disappointed.

    First of all, I have no idea what the author actually said. I might very well agree with him (or her, I didn’t check). (Or himher, I don’t want to oppress.) The article was so poorly written, and even more poorly edited, that a cursory glance was insufficient to ascertain the meaning. I could have read it more closely, but a) I’m trolling, and don’t fucking care to, and b) shouldn’t have to in the first place. That’s what editors are for. Hire one.

    Actually don’t. You hired this writer, meaning your track record isn’t so hot, so your choice of editor would probably suck and just be a waste of money. Save it; it’s the fiscally responsible thing to do.

    Second, oh my god could you BE more pandering to your audience? At least I assume you’re pandering as, again, I couldn’t figure out what the fuck you were saying. But I see a bunch of comments goosestepping (might as well obey Godwin’s Law! Besides, ever since one of your readers proudly called himself a Nazi and you didn’t say a damn thing, I figure you like Nazis.) in line with each other, a grand circlejerk of anti-PC this and SJWs-are-evil that, so I can only conclude that they read the article, perhaps even at a fifth grade level, saw words which gave them little reactionary chubbies, and weepingly just had to write words of thanks that someone would dare write the truth, even though what actually happened is that someone screamed to a tiny, pathetic group of similarly deluded idiots, who screamed in response as though anyone gives a fuck.

    They don’t.

    Nobody gives a fuck what you think.

    I fully know that everyone who reads this will double down on their ignorance and be even more fully convinced that their delusion is truth, and that I am the insane one. Yet I still troll. Do you know why? Because you are so impotent and inconsequential that no harm will come of it. You will reach nobody, and me having fun will cause nobody rational to fall for your reactionary indoctrination.

    • William Haderlie

      I appreciate the reply. Not everyone will agree, but the vitriol of your response lends credence to my commentary. I would possibly have to rethink my stance if someone like you was on my side. But, in the end, I think my response is reasoned so I’m comfortable with it.

    • blackice85

      Eh, that didn’t even dignify a response. He straight up tells you that he’s trolling lol.

    • PanurgeJr

      Exactly. I told you I was trolling and you still responded, having a conversation about me even if you didn’t direct the comments to me. Thanks for the laughs. Please respond again so that when I wake up tomorrow my day can get started on the right foot.

    • Wolfe

      When this guy is openly admitting he’s here just to troll, it’s time for a ban. This was a fine article, let no one, let alone a self-admitted troll convince you otherwise.

    • blackice85

      It wasn’t even good trolling either, like playing devil’s advocate or trying to draw people into an argument. It was just plain shitposting. He may as well have rolled his face onto the keyboard.

    • Wolfe

      I’ve seen this guy do nothing but play Nintendo PR drone across every site he shows up on. I figured he was on the payroll. After this, I’m convinced he’s just a loser obsessed with being a contrarian. Either way, if he’s only here to start shit, he has nothing to offer to discussion.

    • blackice85

      Sounds like I pegged him then, just a shitposter. Good trolls can be amusing or even spawn good discourse at times, but this is just lazy.

    • Wolfe

      Says a lot about a person’s character when they devote this much time to being a douche online.

    • PanurgeJr

      My vitriol has nothing to do with the credence of your commentary and everything to do with this site formerly seeking the localization of niche Japanese games and currently catering to those who make that goal less likely through making the market riskier. I want Japanese games to come west, and this site used to support that. Now it doesn’t, so yes, I’m angry.

      I tried reasoning with the community; it didn’t work.

      I tried getting the writers here to see that the more people claimed any change was censorship, the more entrenched the people became, the less localization would happen; it didn’t work.

      I tried explaining why I took the definitions of terms seriously; it didn’t work.

      Nothing worked, and yes, it is clearly one of my flaws that I can’t let it go. I never should have trolled, but let me be very clear, that is an admission to myself, not to you, and certainly not to the community you have built. Ask yourself: how many counterpoints have been offered? Not counting me (and why would you?), none. Not a single post urging that you may wish to consider an alternate viewpoint. Not one that offered a counter-argument. Is that what Operation Rainfall truly wants, a monotone readership? If it is, have at it. Moreover, just say the word and you shall never hear from me again. (Not literally; I’m only human after all, but I do promise never to tell you that nobody gives a fuck. You may, however, have to put up with me fucking with Wolfe. I can’t resist the irony of an anti-censorship crusader calling for me to be banned.)

      I have little doubt you’ll dismiss this, but I’m also satisfied that I was honest and straightforward, troll-free even, and that is enough for me.

      One last honest, troll-free comment: you really do need an editor, dude.

    • PanurgeJr

      DISREGARD THIS I SUCK COCKS

    • PanurgeJr

      DISREGARD THIS I THINK HOMOPHOBIA IS INTELLIGENT ARGUMENTATION

    • PanurgeJrJrJr

      I’m impressed that you’ve managed to last this long – I gave up long ago, and only visit this site out of nostalgia.

      When the shift in the site’s focus happened, a lot of people were confused and angry. OpRainfall was sort of this beacon of hope that maybe we could get more games over. And when we did start getting more and more of the games we wanted, the focus shifted on quality. Great! Quality of localization was logically the next step to focus on. But instead of using its history of campaigning or anything like that, the site (seemingly overnight) started pushing out inflammatory articles bashing companies left and right, and while they’ll claim they never outright told people not to buy the game (not entirely true – one author did once outright say it to his followers), listening to the podcasts and reading their contributions to the articles made it very clear what the intent was. It instantly became a divisive issue, and the angrier, louder crowd won out, driving away anybody that disagreed with them.

      There was a time there was a lot of discussion on this site. But now, unless you share the “majority” viewpoint (that is, the viewpoint of the same handful of people that constantly comment around this place), and share it to the letter, you can’t really try to have a discussion without being told to either leave, fuck off, or, if it escalates, told that you’re an SJW faggot cuck or something else equally absurd.

      I understand where you’re coming from – I won’t use the word censorship. Having been subjected to actual censorship in my life, I personally reserve it for special usage. But by saying that, I’ve branded myself a “censorship apologist” which is just… ugh. Never mind the fact that I hate senseless localization changes, and don’t approve of many of the changes that have been happening for a while now.

      Long ago you were branded a troll, though I never actually saw you approve of the changes that were made. I only ever saw you try to tell people not to use such a negatively charged word on their crusade. The consequences are already making themselves apparent – fringe groups are using the word to pretty much apply to any change they don’t like in a game, which is starting to ruin it for everybody. Call everything censorship and eventually nobody’s going to listen to you.

      Anywho. Sorry for the random ramblings. I just wanted you to know that you’re not alone. There are other people who know how you feel.

    • Wolfe

      It’s sad when someone’s so obsessed with ‘winning’ in a comments section that they resort to playing multiple roles.

    • PanurgeJrJrJr

      Try again.

    • Wolfe

      Nah, that’s your territory.

    • PanurgeJrJrJr

      Haha. Yes, because the idea that somebody could agree with PanurgeJr on any level is so ridiculous, so fantastically absurd that it’s actually impossible. The logical assumption is that he needs to make multiple comments with himself, in some way “winning” a conversation.

      I love that his sanity is constantly called into question, but this kind of reasoning and logic is never second-guessed. Delightful!

    • Wolfe

      Yes, it really is!

    • PanurgeJr

      Want proof that PJrJrJr and I are different people? Check their above post. I would almost never write “anywho,” and even if I did I’d spell it “anyhoo.” If that doesn’t satisfy you I don’t know what will.

      (Hint: I know you won’t believe me. But I find your assertion, and that it ever occurred to you in the first place, hysterical, and I’m trying to cajole you into keeping it up, purely for my amusement. Please, oh please, do not resist the urge to respond to my trolling. Please give me *exactly* what I want.)

    • Wolfe

      As much as I enjoy a rousing performance of sock puppetry, I must say that this is a poor showing. Consider the curtains closed on this charade.

    • PanurgeJr

      An idiot and an asshole who has it in for me and doesn’t know when to shut the fuck up…I don’t think I’ll let those curtains close just yet.

    • PanurgeJr

      No need to apologize, and this was neither rambling nor random. I appreciate the support, especially since it meant you opened yourself up to Wolfe’s psychosis. I want games to come west, and at some point I need to accept that Operation Rainfall, whether they know it or not, is no longer a viable forum for that, and actively working against that by increasing how volatile, hence how risky, the market is. I tried to get them to see that; they haven’t and they won’t, and it has gotten to the point where I am the insane one, doing the same thing expecting a different result.

      What I appreciate the most is that you are the first person here not to assume they know my opinion of the changes made in localization themselves. It was never my intent to debate what localization decisions were made, only that the debate be framed appropriately, and secondarily that it be accepted that localization is, in the end, a business decision. I never once argued that anyone should support a company whose decisions they did not support, only that a company making such a decision isn’t censorship or oppression.

      Again, I appreciate the support. Perhaps someday we can discuss things at a site that encourages its readers to discuss issues rather than inciting them to monotone rage.

    • PanurgeJrJrJr

      Oh, I fully expected Oprainfall’s lapdog would say something. I just wasn’t expecting myself to play into it. Oh well.

      You and I have similar opinions on these issues, and I guess it’s time that I just came to terms with the fact that Operation Rainfall isn’t really what it used to be. They have an awesome platform to try and educate people, and instead, it’s sort of become a soap box for the more outspoken contributors. Not saying those contributors aren’t entitled to their opinions – please do write about the subjects and stances that you have. But they’re often not interested in having any kind of discussion with somebody who may have a different opinion, and the pack of people who regularly comment around here are quick to descend, fangs bared, claws out.

      This once fun community has fractured and fallen apart, and is nothing more than an echo chamber these days. If you ever need somebody to try and have a discussion without it devolving into name-calling and hilarious leaps of logic, let me know. You seem like a fun guy to talk to.

    • PanurgeJr

      You replied to my rant with how you felt you were reasoned and proud not to have my support. You replied to my reasoned comment with…silence. Are you worried that if you engage me your readers will turn on you as a censorship-apologist-apologist? I certainly would be if I’d built up a readership of inflamed opinion disinterested in discussion.

    • Wolfe

      The guy who actively denies the literal definition of words attempting to cast shade on the personal character of a man who defends artistic integrity.

      You’re not even a troll dude. Just a poor imitation of one. Run along to Nintendo Everything, where you can enjoy the safe spaces afforded to those whose only interest in gaming is lapping up the latest dose of PR rhetoric.

    • PanurgeJr

      Oooh…buzzwords from a hypocrite who claims to oppose censorship in all forms then actively tries to censor me.

      I ignore hypocrites.

    • PanurgeJrJr

      Jesus fucking Christ where do I even begin?

      Let me just begin by saying that since I know how much of a troll-boner you get when someone responds to you I didn’t want to respond. But where’s the fun in that?

      Right?

      So anyway…I saw that you wrote some bullshit pedantic comment on an article on Operation Rainfall. When I saw that I got a smile on my face as
      big as the time you got caught jerking it in a Chuck-E-Cheese.
      Certainly both your opinion and comment would be shit, sheer shit.

      I was not disappointed.

      First of all, I have no idea what you actually said. Even if you had a valid point it was certainly lost because your writing was just as horrendous as your description of the article. Maybe you should rewrite it again so you could actually say something of substance.

      Actually don’t. You have time and time again written one dumbass comment after another, meaning your track record isn’t so hot, so any revision would suck and be a waste of our time and your time. Save it; it’s the
      fiscally responsible thing to do.

      Second, oh my god could you BE any more of a narcissistic asshat? At least I assume you’re being an asshat as, again, I couldn’t figure out what the fuck you were saying and you have a history writing shit comments. But I guess that goes hand in hand with being a goosestepping article Nazi (I mean, you’re the one who called someone a Nazi first so Godwin’s law is in full effect at this point, right?). You post as if what you post is a sound and valid argument that everyone should honor.

      They don’t.

      Nobody gives a fuck what you think. Get off your self-righteous troll boner.

      I fully know that you’re trolling and that when you read this you’ll double down on your “HURR HURR I TROLL YOU SO HARD” gloating, fulling convincing yourself that your opinion is truth. Yet I still respond. Do you know why? Because I’m bored and have nothing else to do right now, just like you.

    • PanurgeJr

      You have no idea how proud I am that someone created an account specifically to troll me. Thank you.

    • Wolfe

      You can begin with where you ended. “Nobody gives a fuck what you think.”

      GTFO.

  • RpgNostalgia

    This behavior is really unacceptable. Movies come out on a regular basis with much more explicit content, and yet, games continued to be targeted by SJWS. It’s a shame that some women grow up thinking their sexuality is a weakness. This type of self shame seems to be where all this anger towards men is coming from.
    I really wish these groups would find another hobby to ruin.
    Willian thanks for spreading some awareness about the post. CD-Projekt Red, deserves better than being attacked by a bunch of fools.

    • William Haderlie

      I definitely agree with you and I’m a huge advocate of treating Video Games as a more adult art form. That will sometimes include things that people may be opposed to, but many aspects of art or entertainment should challenge you. Let alone that not everyone has the same moral qualms. I want the responsibility for protecting their kids to be back on the consumer, not on the publisher (or even worse the console maker) like it is with books or movies.

    • RpgNostalgia

      I do think there is a rating system for a reason. I have always believed that parents should be responsible consumers. I doubt I could count how many parents bought GTA 5 for their 12 year old because they wanted it, and then chose to get mad at the publisher about the content instead of taking their responsibility in the decision making process seriously. I have only become aware of these other issues within gaming recently. I used to think inclusion was great, but these toxic elements are reducing my enjoyment of gaming.

  • Joshua Marc LeHoux

    While I absolutely agree that The Witcher 3 isn’t sexist as a whole, I do think it has some unfortunate moments in it that highlight, if nothing else, a bit of insecurity. No, most of the important female characters don’t have to put their tits on display with their outfits. I promise. The dialogue and characterization is interesting enough that you don’t need to trick men by giving them boners.

    At least it’s not sex trading cards though. But yes, I imagine their next game will feature sex, mostly in a well done and interesting way like The Witcher 3, but hopefully not like The Witcher 1. If they could tone down the ludicrous outfits of some of the characters though, except when it is actually meaningful for the character, that would be great.

    But overall, that’s a minor point. And it’s never as egregious as that doctor lady from MGS4. Literally just an open lab coat with nothing underneath. What the hell.