OPINION: Nintendo Showing One Game at E3 is Embarrassing

Saturday, May 7th, 2016

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Zelda U

Nintendo has announced their E3 line-up for 2016, and it isn’t much to write home about. The only playable game on this year’s show floor will be The Legend of Zelda Wii U. This news is often followed by, “Oh, great! I get to play Zelda on Wii U!” And then it hits you: that’s all that’s going to be there. And then you realize the embarrassment this company is setting themselves up for.

Zelda Wii U Featured

Nintendo revealed earlier this year that The Legend of Zelda Wii U will be delayed till 2017 and will also be released on the company’s new console: the NX. Additionally, they have announced there will be no talks about the NX at E3 2016. What this means is that Nintendo’s entire show floor will feature a dozen-or-so versions of their new Zelda game; all being played on what is to be considered old hardware by the time the game releases next year. For a company who has games like Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE and Paper Mario: Color Splash  planned to release this year, to throw those aside and show a game that isn’t coming out till next year makes me wonder, “Do they even care?”

Zelda Wii U | Slow-Motion Leap and Aim

The lack of Nintendo exclusive titles is a huge problems for the loyal fans that have purchased the console and this topic deserves to be brought into this discussion. Nintendo needs to be honest with their fan base, but to do that the company would need to admit that they did something wrong. They were wrong to tease The Legend of Zelda Wii U in 2014, only to slowly back out of their promise to the fans who bought the Wii U system (after the initial reveal of the game) only to have to wait three more years. And to top it off these early adopters were told that the game will be released on a new, more powerful console.

Zelda Wii U

Let’s not stop there. What needs to be asked is “Why E3, Nintendo?” Let us remember that E3 is not a fan event. Most gamers only dream of attending the show in their lifetime. The majority of attendees are members of the industry or games media. Meaning, Nintendo is going to show this one game where their competitors are showing dozens, ultimately becoming overshadowed and lost in the constant stream of video game coverage coming out of the show. Why not show this game at an event where die-hard Nintendo fans will be able to get their hands on it? You remember those fans, right, Nintendo? The ones that buy every game you put out no matter what changes it goes through. Those are the gamers the company needs to be showing this game to; not members of the press who are pretty much “stoked” for any game that fits their personal agendas. Aside from that, Nintendo could have used E3 to prove that Metroid: Federation Force isn’t the terrible game fans think it is (which for all I know it is as bad as we think it is). Or they could even announce a new series of Amiibo.

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There is no reason why Nintendo as a company should waste their time and money making an appearance at the show this year. The company should follow what EA and Activision have done and exclude themselves. My advice to the company: Let the Wii U go: unplug the life support on the console that was destroyed by bad marketing and poor third party relationships. Showing off the old version of the new Zelda is not going to make people buy a Wii U. If anything, it’s going to make people wonder how much better the game is going to be on NX. In addition to that, save yourself the embarrassment of paying for your E3 floor space and host an event for your fans. In a Time interview, President of Nintendo Tatsumi Kimishima stated, “I think our first job right now is to make sure that the customers, those 10 million customers who have a Wii U at home have software to play, and we need to make sure that they are satisfied with their purchase and continue to enjoy playing on this platform.” Well, Nintendo, this was your chance to prove that you haven’t given up on your fans, and it seems you have failed.




  • Mir Teiwaz

    At first I thought they meant that Zelda would be the only *first party* game they’d be showcasing (which would mean Tokyo Mirage Sessions could still show up since Atlus is making that), but if that’s the ONLY game in their section of the showfloor then I completely agree. They may as well have just made a Nintendo Direct and set up something elsewhere where fans could come to play it instead.

    Zelda is a strong franchise for Nintendo, but even that franchise doesn’t have the backbone to carry Nintendo all on its own.

    • azariosays

      Sadly, if you read their press release that linked in the article their entire show floor will be legend of Zelda Wii u, as well as, the treehouse event that streams to twitch during e3.

    • Mir Teiwaz

      I wanted to believe Nintendo wouldn’t make such a poor choice. Refusing to show anything else might even put more third party devs off from wanting to work with them if Nintendo isn’t going to do anything to make consumers want to buy more consoles.

    • azariosays

      Yea, even if they showed some of Mario and sonic Olympics, that would be good for their partnership with Sega.

  • Stealth

    I completely disagree with this considering they are having a seperate event later.

    E3 is quite frankly, downright irrelevant to most people.

    • azariosays

      and that’s why I said they should just remove themselves from E3 all together. more so if you have proof that “it is not important to them”.

    • Mir Teiwaz

      So why even bother spending the money to show up to E3 if it’s not important?

    • Stealth

      Most do not show up to E3. Zelda is enough to show.

    • Mr0303

      “E3 is quite frankly, downright irrelevant to most people.” – I disagree unless you also mean people who don’t play games. It is still the biggest gaming event and the only time non-gaming press pays attention to the announcements.

      While I agree that most developers may find a better spot at PAX or a similar event, E3 is the time for the Big 3 along with the major publishers to try and impress both the dedicated consumers and the shareholders.

    • Stealth

      “the only time non-gaming press pays attention to the announcements.” Not true.

      “E3 is the time for the Big 3 along with the major publishers to try and impress both the dedicated consumers and the shareholders.” Except most of the big publishers do not even attend.

    • Mr0303

      “Not true.” – oh, really? When are the other times that are as prolific?

      “Except most of the big publishers do not even attend.” – most? EA, Activision, Bethesda, Take-Two and The Big 3 are all there. Who is exactly is missing from E3?

    • Stealth

      E3 is not even slightly prolofic………

      “EA, Activision, Bethesda, Take-Two and The Big 3 are all there.”

      EA- No booth
      Bethesda – Small booth
      Take Two – Not even at the event
      Activision- No booth

      I can go on and on

    • Mr0303

      So do tell which gaming event is more “prolofic”.

      Last years E3 had 21 million viewers, which I’d say is pretty good, unless you can show a similar event that overshadows this number completely.

      Having no booth doesn’t mean the publishers won’t use the free publicity and show of their games during the Sony and MS conferences.

    • Stealth

      Hell TGS gets more devs and foot traffic than the last E3 did……….

    • Mr0303

      So you can’t name a more prolific show that gathers more views? Good to know.

      “Foot traffic” – to a show that is open to the public? Shocker!

    • Stealth

      They all garner pretty low views all things considering.

      Every major publisher either has no booth or not at the show at all. It is like not being there for journalists

    • Mr0303

      “low views all things considering” – you’ve got to be trolling at this point. As I said before – provide a more prolific event to support your claim.

      E3 is for journalists – this is why the event is closed to the public.

    • Stealth

      Views for E3 have actually been down consistently over the last 10 years, less devs than ever want to attend, not sure how anyone can make the case E3 is relevant.

      You are right, E3 is for journalists who also are saying E3 is less relevant than ever.

      IGN, Wired, USGamer, ect they all think it is better for Nintendo not to show much at E3 and have a seperate event.

    • Mr0303

      Citation needed. Where are you getting this data from?

      “You are right, E3 is for journalists who also are saying E3 is less relevant than ever.” – citation needed.

      “IGN, Wired, USGamer, ect they all think it is better for Nintendo not to show much at E3 and have a seperate event.” – even if I took any of those sites seriously, which I don’t, those are all opinion pieces like the one on this site and they have nothing to to with the relevance of E3. Which one of those 3 sites is skipping E3 coverage? Exactly.

    • Stealth

      “even if I took any of those sites seriously, which I don’t,” It is fine if you don’t the majority of gamers do.

      “they have nothing to to with the relevance of E3.” EA, Activision, Nintendo, Take Two, Blizzard, ect, the biggest publishers of the industry have minimal or no presence this year. Period.

      The number of developers who are attending this year is the lowest it has been in 10 years.

      Nintendo already said they would be having a seperate event. Not going to E3 to show NX, or the rest of the years lineup will have no impact on future sales.

    • Mr0303

      Again you are using weasel words to try and prove your point, without providing any actual evidence.

      Publishers are using the conferences to promote their games to the millions of people watching them. Having a booth for the press members has little to no relevance to the popularity of the event. The main attraction has always been the press conferences viewed by millions of people.

      “the rest of the years lineup will have no impact on future sales” – you have no way of knowing that.

    • Stealth

      Weasel words? LOL I think that is your way of saying I have zero evidence.

      “Publishers are using the conferences to promote their games to the millions of people watching them. Having a booth for the press members has little to no relevance to the popularity of the event. The main attraction has always been the press conferences viewed by millions of people.”

      Yeah and that is why E3 gets less and less dev and publishers going every year. Booths have everything to do with the relevance of E3, Journalists go to the booths to write articles.

      Futter from Game Informer says if you do not have a booth you are basically not at E3.

      “”the rest of the years lineup will have no impact on future sales” – you have no way of knowing that.” Splatoon did not have a large E3 presence last year? Highest selling New IP exclusive of the gen so far. I can list countless examples.

    • Mr0303

      You’d be correct. You have zero evidence to support your claims.

      A reveal trailer at the big stage could be much more influential that a demo booth. Plus by that logic Nintendo’s presence is minimal with only one demo.

      Splatoon was shown at E3 2014, which surely boosted it’s popularity.

    • Stealth

      “You’d be correct. You have zero evidence to support your claims.” graphics, journalist, articles. Keep your head in the sand.

      “A reveal trailer at the big stage could be much more influential that a demo booth.” Nope…….

      ‘Splatoon was shown at E3 2014, which surely boosted it’s popularity.” It was barely shown at E3 compared the the press it got after.

    • Mr0303

      “graphics, journalist, articles” – All not supporting the point you are trying to make – that E3 is somehow irrelevant and not the biggest gaming event of the year.

      “”A reveal trailer at the big stage could be much more influential that a demo booth.” Nope…….” – a very convincing argument. Let me try it – yup.

      But it was shown at E3, wasn’t it? Good to know.

    • Stealth

      The biggest event of the year by default but in the grand scheme of other events, not that big.

      “”A reveal trailer at the big stage could be much more influential that a demo booth.””

      Did Pokemon Sun/Moon have its big reveal at E3? Over 20 million views on youtube alone……………..Will be the highest selling exclusive of the year by far. Yup E3 really helped.

    • Mr0303

      “The biggest event of the year by default” – finally. Glad we agree on that.

      Oh, yeah. The 20-year-old super popular franchise needs all the coverage it can get, including E3, brilliant example!

    • Stealth

      There you go again, just dismissing fact.

    • Mr0303

      I’m not dismissing it. Pokemon’s popularity doesn’t need the E3 promotion or any promotion to be honest. Same with Mario, same with GTA. A new IP on the other hand could really use any publicity it can get and this is why publishers are using these conferences to announce games.

    • Stealth

      Splatoon did not need E3 to become the highest selling new IP exclusive of the gen so far.

      If anything, E3 hurt Splatoon until Nintendo had another direct later on.

    • Mr0303

      We already established that Splatoon was at E3 2014.

    • Stealth

      Barely, if anything it got negative publicity at E3 due to the gameplay that was shown.

      And yet despite bad publicity at E3, it still broke records because of what came after E3. E3 is not the be all end all

    • Mr0303

      Well, I’m just saying that Splatoon is not a valid example since it was unveiled at E3.

    • Stealth

      It is an example to show how E3 does not matter at all to a games success.

    • Mr0303

      A game that was unveiled at E3 to a large audience is an example of how E3 doesn’t affect the game’s popularity – brilliant.

    • Stealth

      Most E3 reveals paint a game in a negative light. Yet, if a game still sells despite that, it proves how little E3 matters.

    • Mr0303

      “Most E3 reveals paint a game in a negative light” – citation needed, but I doubt you can find anything for such an idiotic statement.

    • Stealth

      It is fact……….

    • Mr0303

      Whatever helps you sleep at night.

    • Stealth

      Yes, it is very impressive people are watching online. But if nobody goes and devs leave there will be nothing online for people to watch.

      Gamescom and TGS are bigger events than E3.

    • Mr0303

      “But if nobody goes and devs leave there will be nothing online for people to watch.” – which hasn’t happened.

      “Gamescom and TGS are bigger events than E3.” – to the public, perhaps, but not to the media.

    • Stealth

      “Publishers are using the conferences to promote their games to the millions of people watching them. Having a booth for the press members has little to no relevance to the popularity of the event. ”

      You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. E3 is an event for journalists and for the media.

      http://www.wired.com/2016/03/end-e3-know/

      “E3 as the epicenter of all things gaming has an expiration date.”

      Considering Publishers are leaving the event in record numbers, it really is not relevant.

    • Mr0303

      “E3 is an event for journalists and for the media.” – yes, and no self respecting gaming site will miss E3, including Wired, which still speaks to how relevant it is despite that opinion piece.

      It’s popularity may be declining, but it is still the biggest gaming event of the year. The viewers are in the millions and it has all the media attention.

    • Stealth

      “no self respecting gaming site will miss E3, including Wired, which still speaks to how relevant it is despite that opinion piece.”

      They go as a formality, not because they think it matters to game companies.

      From E3 2014 to E3 2015 we have 20-30% less devs attend. This year another 20-30. next year another 20-30. Then poof.

    • Mr0303

      “They go as a formality” – and all the writers and resources they put into this are just another formality I guess? Nothing to do with the crazy traffic these sites get around E3.

      “next year another 20-30” – didn’t know you can see the future. Plus the less devs are there, the more attention the ones that are attending from the press.

    • Stealth

      “Plus the less devs are there, the more attention the ones that are attending from the press.” Until all the devs do not even go, which is what most sites are predicting over thenext few years.

    • Mr0303

      Even if that happens in the future E3 is still the biggest gaming event as of now.

      “which is what most sites are predicting over thenext few years.” – citation needed.

    • Stealth

      “Even if that happens in the future E3 is still the biggest gaming event as of now.”

      Gamescom and TGS both get more foot traffic and dev attendance. Only thing E3 has is online views.

      It is very debatable E3 is the biggest.

    • Mr0303

      Even if it’s in the top 3 the argument still stands. It’s one of the biggest gaming events of the year, if not the biggest.

    • Stealth

      You really are something else. I wish I could live in a fantasy world like you do.

      E3 probably will not exist in 5 more years, yet it is super popular? Troll logic.

    • Mr0303

      You seem to be the one who has a problem with reality.

      It is currently one of the biggest events in gaming and your petty predictions really mean nothing, but do go on. Will cows “probably” fly in 5 years? We better warn the air lines!

    • Stealth

      I see how you work now. All you do is ignore evidence and industry trends and the biggest journalists in the industry, and want to live in a bubble. I get it.

      You keep pretending E3 is relevant and more and more companies drop out until the event is cancelled.

    • Mr0303

      You keep pretending that one of the biggest gaming events of the year is irrelevant because Nintendo is being stupid.

      Again – E3 is alive and well and your idiotic hypothetical future isn’t any real evidence to the contrary.

    • Stealth

      Alive and well when devs are leaving at a rate we have never seen before. Yeah, alive and well.

    • Steve Baltimore

      This site and others get about 3 to 4 times the normal traffic during E3. They are missing a ton of reach by now showing off their console there, and quite frankly they need all the help they can get.

    • Stealth

      Yes, and with companies dropping out of E3 at a record rate, I would be surprised in future years if you get that traffic

    • Steve Baltimore

      Why do these companies need their own booths when MS and Sony show off most of their stuff anyways? I’m sure that’s a lot of the logic here not that the show is not important.

    • Stealth

      They do not show most of it off.

    • Steve Baltimore

      OK man, cause Sony and MS have all this first party stuff to fill theirs shows with. MS shows off almost everything EA brings every year.

    • Stealth

      That is one company.

    • Mr0303

      Well E3 is happening this year, but you can believe whatever you want.

    • Stealth

      Nintendo is being strategically smart. If the games are not ready for E3, then it is better to wait until September. Holiday would not be a great launch for NX anyway due to supply and demand according to pachter and every other financial gaming analyst but of course, you know better. Hence, delusion

    • Mr0303

      It is their strategic smarts that led to the Wii U’s flop, right?

      You must be a really big fan of that loon Pachter for some reason despite him declaring Nintendo dead for countless years.

    • Stealth

      It is there strategic smarts that lead to 3DS’s success, software success, amiibo success.

      Every company is allowed a failure. Sony has Vita, Nintendo has Wii U.

    • Mr0303

      “Every company is allowed a failure.” – and this is why they should be criticised for dumb decisions like bringing one game to E3.

    • Stealth

      Not really dumb when they have released more games this year already than any publisher, they have directs, and they are having a sep event.

    • Mr0303

      If any of their directs reaches 21 million viewers I will concede that that was a sound decision.

    • Stealth

      E3 does not reach 21 million distinct viewers. At best it reaches half that.

    • Mr0303
    • Stealth

      I misread. I was wrong on that. Overall views are still down on E3.

      Views on twitch do not matter if Devs are leaving E3 in record numbers and nobody attends the show. There will be no show for people on twitch to view.

    • Mr0303

      You don’t have any numbers to prove that the views are down.

      We already established that there are Devs that are attending the show and that the show is happening.

    • Stealth

      2003 60,000

      2004 65,000

      2005 70,000

      2006 60,000

      2015 52,200

      Numbers are not down?

      I already showed you how devs attending are falling off a cliff.

      Hell, the attendance numbers are less than Gamescom and TGS now
      http://www.ign.com/wikis/e3/Attendance_and_Stats

    • Mr0303

      We were talking about online viewership, for which there is no Twitch data.

      I also like how you purposefully exclude the 2008-2015 period that shows that attendance is rising. This is what we call being intellectually dishonest.

    • Stealth

      Nothing dishonest, 10 years ago was the highest attendance, now we have the lowest. That is the contrast.

    • Mr0303

      You are a dishonest liar that hides and rejects data, that you’ve provided mind you, if it goes against your narrative. E3 attendance has been increasing for the last couple of years as clearly shown by the table.

    • Stealth

      Yeah a dishonest liar that has 4000 gamer twitter followers………..

      Last year was the least popular E3 has just about ever been. This year? It is worse with devs just leaving……

    • Mr0303

      So you’re a popular liar. The 4000 suckers you’ve conned don’t change the fact that you lied above and continue to lie.

    • Stealth

      hahaha, oh the trolling. I cannot be angry at you. That is funny.

    • Mr0303

      Nope. I’m completely serious.

    • Stealth

      Then you are insane. Honestly after seeing your comment history, I am nervous even responding to you. You are dangerous.

    • Mr0303

      I’m some random guy on the internet. Words can’t hurt you princess.

    • Stealth

      https://twitter.com/Stealth___ Who are you? This is who I am.

      I gave you graphs, charts, quotes from the most respected journalists….you gave me nothing….

    • Mr0303

      Who you are and the number of followers have nothing to do with the validity of your argument.

      Yet you ignored all the viewership and attendance data and relied solely on opinion pieces of 3 journalists.

    • Stealth

      YOU are the one who ignored attendance data

      Visitor attendance last year was the lowest in E3 history, last year was the lowest dev attendance in E3 history, until this year which is lower than that lol. Keep trying

    • Mr0303

      Let’s look at the data again, shall we?

      http://uk.ign.com/wikis/e3/Attendance_and_Stats

      Both the attendance and the number of exhibitors has been steadily increasing since 2008.

    • Stealth

      I love it how you are using the link I provided, but after talking with Peer Schneider, EIC and owner of IGN on twitter, those are just estimates that they came up with.

      Not legit.

      The Graph I showed you before is accurate. Number of devs is down

    • Mr0303

      Citation needed.

    • Stealth

      http://www.usgamer.net/article

      “Perhaps E3 will just become a week of various game publisher events around the Los Angeles downtown area? Regardless, what was gaming’s biggest show has to change with the times if it wants to continue being relevant. It’s up to the ESA to figure out the right changes though.”

      “One is an isolated incident and two might be coincidence, but four publishers leaving E3 is indicative of a trend. What we’re seeing is a larger shift in how companies reach their audiences. It might have once made sense to throw tons of money at an expensive booth every year to reach the press, that’s really not a problem anymore. Disney Interactive is sticking with fan events for the rest of the year and Wargaming ultimately felt that E3 wasn’t helping the company reach its audience.”

    • Mr0303

      “Perhaps”…

    • Stealth

      What have I gotten myself into…..responding to a Sony fanboy with known GG views………..ah well. This was good for a laugh on twitter. I seem to be the only person who has ever responded to you. So I guess you can feel proud

    • Mr0303

      That is objectively false if you look a bit harder in my comment history, but I suppose you are trying to demonise me.

    • Stealth

      Your views on Alison Rapp are disguisting, your Sony fanboyism is there for all to see. I am ashamed I even responded to you once.

    • Mr0303

      You should be ashamed of being a liar and trying to poison the well against people.

    • Stealth

      Please everyone is already laughing at you on twitter

    • Mr0303

      Oh, no! I nearly cared for a second.

    • Mr0303

      Interacting with a liar is not something to be proud of, but proving you wrong was a joy.

    • Stealth

      Considering you didnt. Whether you want to keep your head in the sand or not, E3 is not relevant to game devs anymore.

    • Mr0303

      That is a bullshit statement and you’ve done nothing to prove it.

    • Stealth

      http://www.usgamer.net/articles/whats-happening-to-e3-its-no-longer-the-only-game-in-town

      “Perhaps E3 will just become a week of various game publisher events around the Los Angeles downtown area? Regardless, what was gaming’s biggest show has to change with the times if it wants to continue being relevant. It’s up to the ESA to figure out the right changes though.”

      “One is an isolated incident and two might be coincidence, but four publishers leaving E3 is indicative of a trend. What we’re seeing is a larger shift in how companies reach their audiences. It might have once made sense to throw tons of money at an expensive booth every year to reach the press, that’s really not a problem anymore. Disney Interactive is sticking with fan events for the rest of the year and Wargaming ultimately felt that E3 wasn’t helping the company reach its audience.”

    • Mr0303

      “Perhaps”.

    • Stealth

      Again, Online viewership is irrelevant if nobody attends the event and devs keep dropping out. There will be no event.

    • Mr0303

      Yeah, I agree, but unfortunately for you plenty of people will attend this year’s E3 and there will be an event.

    • Stealth

      “plenty of people will attend this year’s E3 ” Projected to be the lowest in history.

      Less devs attending than ever. This might as well be the last year.

    • Mr0303

      Again you are talking crap. “Projected” – more predictions, assumptions and vapid babble without any evidence.

    • Stealth

      Projected by analysts and journalists. You? A nobody.

    • Mr0303

      Which you didn’t provide. You too are a nobody on the internet.

    • Stealth

      I was personally invited to come to E3 by Sony and Nintendo. I am not even sure why I am even talking with someone like you. You do not know anything about E3. Later.

    • Mr0303

      Sure you were. I toootally believe you. Nintendo could use a dishonest liar as a PR mouthpiece I’m sure.

      Plus why would you even go to E3 since it is so irrelevant? You are a complete clown.

    • Stealth

      At least you are no longer hiding your trolling 🙂

      Jealousy does not become you.

    • Mr0303

      I’m not jealous of a dishonest liar.

    • Stealth

      They probably asked me to go to E3 just to get anyone to go………nobody really wants to

    • Mr0303

      Sure they did.

    • Stealth

      lol, the only one who has lied is you. But I do not blame you. You have made it pretty obvious you know little to nothing about gaming and E3.

    • Mr0303

      Where have I lied? Point to the statement.

      You lied when you purposefully ignored that the E3 attendance was rising for the last 8 years.

    • Stealth

      Yeah, that is why last year and the year before was the lowest in E3 history and this year is projected to be even lower like the devs

    • Mr0303

      Keep lying. It won’t change the facts:

      http://uk.ign.com/wikis/e3/Attendance_and_Stats

    • Stealth

      You are the only one lying. Do you realize TGS gets double the foot traffic E3? Does

    • Mr0303
    • Stealth

      You keep posting that. Does not change what every Dev and journalist knows.

    • Mr0303

      “what every Dev and journalist knows.” – lol.

    • Stealth

      http://www.usgamer.net/article

      “Perhaps E3 will just become a week of various game publisher events around the Los Angeles downtown area? Regardless, what was gaming’s biggest show has to change with the times if it wants to continue being relevant. It’s up to the ESA to figure out the right changes though.”

      “One is an isolated incident and two might be coincidence, but four publishers leaving E3 is indicative of a trend. What we’re seeing is a larger shift in how companies reach their audiences. It might have once made sense to throw tons of money at an expensive booth every year to reach the press, that’s really not a problem anymore. Disney Interactive is sticking with fan events for the rest of the year and Wargaming ultimately felt that E3 wasn’t helping the company reach its audience.”

    • Mr0303

      “Perhaps.” I’m seeing a trend here.

    • Stealth

      I just checked out your comment history, Sony fanboyism and GG rhetoric about Alison Rapp. No wonder nobody responds to you. I made the mistake.

    • Mr0303

      What I’ve written on other topics is irrelevant. You want to put me in a box and ignore what I’m saying, but I suppose you don’t have a choice since the facts are not on your side.

    • Stealth

      Less and less devs every year are attending and soon E3 will be a small convention. Hell, it already is.

      Pretty much only 2 or 3 out of the top 10 game devs/companies have booths. None of the top 5 do.

      As I have shown you with articles, TGS/Gamecom are currently larger events than E3.

      Nintendo’s only mistake is not ditching the event entirely and instead showing a game like the article said.

      Nintendo will have a huge event in september probably

    • Mr0303

      “soon E3 will be a small convention” – predicting the future again, I see.

      Don’t care about your subjective rating of game devs.

      “TGS/Gamecom are currently larger events than E3.” – which doesn’t mean that E3 is small by any stretch of the imagination no matter how many times you repeat it.

      “probably” – lol.

    • Stealth

      I know you dont care. You do not care about any facts or reason lol

    • Mr0303

      Your subjective crap is far from facts and let alone reason.

    • Stealth

      You keep your head in the sand as E3 goes away

    • Mr0303

      And your head is stuck firmly up your arse.

    • Mr0303

      “They go as a formality, not because they think it matters to game companies.” – so you know what they think? Yeah, right. It is all about profit and traffic. If E3 wasn’t bringing traffic to these sites they wouldn’t cover it.

    • Stealth

      Yeah, I do know what they think considering they tell me on twitter. I am in constant communication with not only Nintendo and Sony employees, but Editors in Chief from IGN, Game Informer, Gamespot, US gamer, ect who are the ones sending people to E3.

    • Mr0303

      Sure you are. Is your uncle working at Nintendo as well?

    • Stealth

      All you have to do is check my twitter, followed by all the treehouse staff, bill trinen, marketing people, everyone at Nintendo.

    • Mr0303

      I don’t care about your social media, plus tweeting to people doesn’t mean you know what they think. You are just one of the random fans they respond to. I doubt they are discussing their business decisions with you. I could be wrong – link the tweets if that’s the case.

    • Stealth

      Oh the delusion.

    • Mr0303

      Why, yes, you are delusional to think you have any inside information for the business workings of gaming websites.

    • Stealth

      I do, but you are going to just deny everything

    • Mr0303

      I will deny it since you have provided no proof whatsoever.

    • Stealth

      You provided no proof and even embarrassingly linked to a spam site basically.

    • Mr0303

      It’s not my job to prove that you have magical business insight.

      Alexa is not a spam site – it is a web analytics site that it fairly accurate, but dismiss it in your ignorance if you will.

    • Stealth

      Nintendo already this year has released more games than any other publisher.

      The one valid point you can have is you wish they would show off some of the 3DS games that we know are coming out, that they should spend more time at the treehouse with.

      When it comes to NX? Having an event after E3 seems to be the media consensus right thing to do.

    • Mr0303

      “Having an event after E3 seems to be the media consensus right thing to do.” – citation needed. Seriously, learn to back up your claims. Where is this media consensus?

    • Stealth

      http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/05/04/3-reasons-nintendo-pushed-nx-out-of-e3

      Am I really supposed to look back a week and find every article there was?

    • Mr0303

      Yes, you made the statement about the media consensus. 1 article from IGN’s resident Nintendo fanboy is hardly evidence for that.

    • Stealth

      He is the resident Nintendo Fanboy? You must not listen to him much…….

    • Mr0303

      Don’t care about him whatsoever. So where are the rest of the “media consensus”?

    • Stealth

      We have Jeff over at Giant Bomb. We have Chris Koher over at Wired…..I can go on and on.

    • Mr0303

      Go on then.

    • Stealth

      No point. You really do not care about evidence, you just are too insecure to admit when you are wrong.

    • Mr0303

      Nope, I’ll admit I’m wrong as soon as you provide your evidence, but I really doubt you have them.

    • Stealth

      Funny, I am proving articles, graphs, and you are the one telling me I have no evidence? hahaha.

      You are trolling me now because you are too insecure to admit when you are wrong. I get it.

    • Mr0303

      So where are all the articles showing the media consensus? You’ve provided 3 opinion pieces. We’re currently on one that goes against those.

      Your statement that E3 is irrelevant is frankly absurd. Nintendo bringing only one game to the conference and not showing the NX is a mistake and you are trying to justify it by desperately trying to deny reality and say that E3 doesn’t matter.

      There you go – feast your eyes on this:

      http://www.tubefilter.com/2015/06/29/twitch-e3-viewership-infographic/

      Hard numbers. Pretty good for an irrelevant event.

    • Stealth

      I provided articles from 3 of the most respected people in games journalism…….you have provided nothing. I provided graphs of declining industry participation.

      Guess what? There is no E3 without the devs and they are leaving in record numbers.

      I know that link. Those numbers are DOWN and keep decreasing…………………..

      “Nintendo bringing only one game to the conference and not showing the NX is a mistake ”

      Actually according to Pachter it is a fantastic move if they have there own event shortly after.

      But then again you know more than the most respected finance person in the industry right?

    • Mr0303

      Last time I checked 3 opinion pieces are not universal media consensus.

      “I know that link. Those numbers are DOWN and keep decreasing” – you don’t know that. There are no numbers for 2015 and you are making things up.

      Are you seriously quoting Pachter – the man who made countless wrong predictions including multiple “Nintendo are doomed” ones? He’s not respected at all in the gaming community.

    • Stealth

      I could have kept going but I realized you are the kind of troll who just dismisses everything. No point.

      “you don’t know that. There are no numbers for 2015 and you are making things up.” Oh boy, how delusional. Do you realize why there are no numbers? Do I have spell things out? If they were good, E3 would be screaming them from the rooftops like they did in 2015. Oh and I did provide 2015 attendance which is the lowest it has been in 10 years. This year, Dev attendance is the lowest.

      “Pachter – the man who made countless wrong predictions including multiple “Nintendo are doomed” ones? He’s not respected at all in the gaming community.”

      Yeah, that is why Game devs pay him to make predictions, because he is wrong all the time……lol. He is right way more than he is wrong.

      Look, you keep watching on twitch, and when all you see is an empty convention center in 5-10 years, you can pretend E3 is still huge!

    • Mr0303

      You are just trying to do a character assassination to avoid providing any proof. “You are just a troll, so obviously I’m right!”. This is not how arguments work.

      There are no numbers, because Twitch wasn’t as popular back then and didn’t support E3. You still don’t have the numbers and were talking out of your arse.

      “Yeah, that is why Game devs pay him to make predictions, because he is wrong all the time……lol.” – citation needed.

      “He is right way more than he is wrong.” – Here’s a quote from him:

      “I don’t think there are four million people in the world who really want
      to play online games every month. World of Warcraft is such an
      exception. I frankly think it’s the buzz factor, and eventually it will
      come back to the mean, maybe a million subscribers. It may continue to
      grow in China, but not in Europe or the U.S. We don’t need the imaginary
      outlet to feel a sense of accomplishment here. It just doesn’t work in
      the U.S. It just doesn’t make any sense.”

      “Look, you keep watching on twitch, and when all you see is an empty
      convention center in 5-10 years, you can pretend E3 is still huge!” – maybe. I care about now and as of now E3 is still one of the biggest gaming events of the year.

    • Stealth

      Why am I even debating with you?

      If the devs themselves find the event more and more irrelevant, then the event is irrelevant. When they leave. So do the viewers, and we are finding out that is exactly what is happening.

    • Mr0303

      “Why am I even debating with you?” – because you are trying to defend an idiotic position.

      Even if E3 2016 is less popular than it’s 2015 counterpart, which is hardly the case, it is still the biggest gaming event of the year and there are still plenty of developers/publishers left in there including the biggest ones known as the Big 3.

    • Stealth

      “Even if E3 2016 is less popular than it’s 2015 counterpart, which is hardly the case” Less foot traffic and less devs? Yeah, less popular. Devs are finding other ways to get the message out. Oh and 2015 is less popular than 2014 was too and so on.

      ” it is still the biggest gaming event of the year and there are still plenty of developers/publishers left in there including the biggest ones known as the Big 3.” Oh the fanboy big 3 thing? It is the biggest in terms of online views. Not in terms of dev attendance or gamer attendance. Which means in reality it is not the biggest anymore.

    • Mr0303

      Being viewed by the most gamers is proof for its popularity (as defined popular – liked, enjoyed, or supported by many people).

      I don’t really care what your personal opinion is about what the biggest event is. E3 still has a major influence in this industry.

    • Stealth

      “Being viewed by the most gamers is proof for its popularity ” Yeah until the event does not exist anymore because of the actual measure of popularity.

    • Mr0303

      Last time I checked E3 2016 is still happening, so it very much exists, despite your loony definitions of popularity.

    • Stealth

      Is it happening? Yes, Do the media and devs care about the event half as much as 10 years ago? no

    • Mr0303

      “Do the media and devs care about the event half as much as 10 years ago? no” – citation needed. Last time I checked there won’t be a single gaming website that’s not covering the event.

    • Stealth

      IGN was, Gamespot was, ect.

    • Mr0303

      IGN and Gamespot are not covering E3? Yeah, right.

    • Stealth

      They were at E3 10 years ago covering, and on both sites podcasts have described why it is pointless to go and why devs are dropping out because it adds more value to advertise in other ways.

    • Mr0303

      And yet they are still going despite it being pointless.

    • Stealth

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/73a9cec43a4c83694218468d429a63b8b81555a7a131a8342b00b34a30cfb172.jpg One of the most respected journalists in gaming. Maybe, THE most respected.

      Are you quite finished?

    • Mr0303

      So? That’s an argument from authority and it’s a logical fallacy and it’s his individual opinion. That’s far from the “media consensus” you suggested. In fact it is a contested issue as we can see from the opinion piece above.

    • Stealth

      When Giant Bomb, USGamer, IGN, all the biggest sites say the exact same thing? That is media consensus.

    • Mr0303

      No, it is not. 3 opinion pieces that do not represent the views of the whole staff working in there. Plus there is all the others thousands of websites that have a contrary opinion including this one that you conveniently choose to ignore.

    • Stealth

      “3 opinion pieces that do not represent the views of the whole staff working in there” Oh, so then this article does not represent everyone at this site……….

      “Plus there is all the others thousands of websites that have a contrary opinion including this one that you conveniently choose to ignore.”

      Link all a thousand of them.

    • Mr0303

      “Oh, so then this article does not represent everyone at this site” – yes, this is how opinion pieces work.

      “Link all a thousand of them.” – Here’s about 20 000:

      http://www.alexa.com/topsites/category/Top/Games/Video_Games

    • Stealth

      Wut? That linked no article.

    • Mr0303

      You said to give a link to the thousands of sites and I did.

    • Stealth

      …………………come on

    • Stealth

      This is a fan site……..a very small site at that. It is basically a blog site. Which is meant as no offense but when it comes to media consensus, I am talking about the major video game sites, developers, ect.

      They all agree, E3 is not important.

    • Mr0303

      If they agree that E3 is not important then surely there will be no coverage from those big sites. I’m sure they’ll ignore this insignificant event.

    • Stealth
    • Mr0303

      No it’s not. The number of developers doesn’t prove that E3 is irrelevant or not largely viewed.

    • Stealth

      That is the most telling statistic that E3 is irrelevant if Devs do not feel like they need to attend. That is damning.

    • Mr0303

      Or they don’t have the money to reserve the space. There is nothing damning about that.

    • Stealth

      Yeah…EA and Activision and Blizzard and Nintendo do not have the money…….LOL

    • Mr0303

      They are all there and the devs who are not attending are likely indie and smaller companies.

  • KissDisqus

    “Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE and Paper Mario: Color Splash”
    To be fair both those titles have been met with less than favorable reactions(how sticker star is the best selling PM title is beyond me). Showing anything from them would just get people even more pissed. Best not to sully Zelda’s show.

    “There is no reason why Nintendo as a company should waste their time and money making an appearance at the show this year.”
    Well there are the bevy of reporters from various websites. It wouldn’t make sense not to let them have a hands on demo(there is a demo available for E3 goers or just showing a stream?) to report to zelda fans for building up hype. Depends on if they’ll have a positive experience but I’m guessing nintendo has a lot of confidence it it.

    Wouldn’t surprise me if nintendo had an announcement of the zelda demo
    being available for all wii u owners in the treehouse event.

    The lack of any other wiiu and 3DS titles being showcased is embarrassing though.

  • Stilzkin

    it’s downright embarrassing

  • Dgnfly

    ”Nintendo” The joke continue’s.. seriously why are they still in the business they alrdy failed bad with WiiU for catering to casuals and Whiny SJW/Feminist types and so how well that worked.

    They need a change of direction and first fire the whole Treeouse staff and rehire ppl who care about gaming and creativity and then listen to fans.

  • Mr0303

    I still can’t believe that Nintendo would do something so insane.

    Not showing the NX at the biggest gaming convention when non-gaming press is watching. Only showing Zelda – a game that is not even releasing this year and the presumably worse Wii U version at that. Not having any announcements for games coming out by the end of the year or having any other demos playable. Last time I checked the 3DS is their money maker – why not showcase something for it?

    I know they are trying to drop the Wii U as quickly as possible, but a move like that will damage their reputation and will reflect badly on the NX. There is the old joke that Nintendo consoles are Mario and Zelda machines and this E3 is doing nothing to break that stereotype.

  • Yeah they need to put up playable demos of Color Splash and Tokyo Mirage Sessions. Even if the former is met with extreme hatred it’s still a big enough title to market and win back some potential buyers.

    Unfortunately while there are a bunch of 3DS games coming this year still, I never saw E3 as a convention that cared about the handhelds all that much. Pokemon in particular has their own line of events thanks to Pokemon Company.

  • Paychi

    Being a Nintendo fan isn’t synonymous with Legend of Zelda fan. Still alienating their own consumers and the fans will just keep making excuses for the abuses.

  • Daymon

    Meh. For me personally, E3 hasn’t been exciting in years, so Nintendo (or ANY company) showing one game is just as boring as showing a dozen. When none of it is exciting, quantity doesn’t make much of a difference.

    • azariosays

      But once that last guardian gets a release date I’m going to be in fucking tears!

      In terms of Nintendo. I could use a new Mario Galaxy

    • Daymon

      Haha. Fair enough!

  • Vayu Purana

    i kinda agree with the azario lopez, its just a really poor choice on nintendo’s part like seriously wth……

    but whatever, all i care for from nintendo is game freak’s pkmn 7th gen games

    • azariosays

      Thanks for reading 🙂

  • Rafael Mario Sanchez

    One game indeed isn’t enough. If you’ve got just one game, you’re not welcome at E3 at all. Come to think of it, shouldn’t you also put demos up on Best Buy with your Nintendo Access?
    At least there, none of us need to attend E3 to see it!

  • Zeonis

    How about a price cut for the Wii U? I want Zelda but only showing one game is ridiculous.

  • TrueWiiMaster

    Before I even looked at the article, I had a good idea who wrote it, just based on its negativity toward Nintendo. I do agree that showing only one game at E3 (if that’s what really ends up happening; as you said, there are other games they could show that are coming this year) is a weird decision, but I wouldn’t call it embarrassing. I mean, they will still be showing one of the most hyped games of the generation (the first HD Zelda, with open world concepts), and anyone who knows about the situation knows there’s a ton of games they’re holding back on, probably for a Fall Nintendo Direct. And if they really don’t show Paper Mario or Tokyo Mirage Sessions, they’ll probably give them Directs of their own.

    “Why not show this game at an event where die-hard Nintendo fans will be able to get their hands on it?”
    That’s still a possibility. Unlike Sony and Microsoft (as far as I remember), Nintendo has had demos of E3 games at Best Buy, and last year they took a big step (in my opinion) by actually allowing Wii U owners to download some E3 demos for upcoming indie games. Attacking Nintendo on E3 demos going public is entirely unwarranted. They’re ahead of the game there.

    “not members of the press who are pretty much “stoked” for any game that fits their personal agendas.”
    Aren’t you one of those agenda-driven members of the press?

    • azariosays

      I get all my questions from the readers, actually. As you can see in my statement on my 500th article which was an open letter to the readers. My “agenda” is really to give the readers a voice and bring their questions to devs and pubs.

    • TrueWiiMaster

      That’s good, but it’s not the end of it. For example, which question does this article answer? Which dev was asked that question? The agenda I was referring to was painting certain unfavored developers in a negative light. As I mentioned, it’s gotten to the point where I can guess if you wrote an article based on how negatively it portrays Nintendo. I know this is an opinion piece, but it always seems to be the same opinion: Nintendo bad/dumb/wrong/etc. Most of the points you made against Nintendo in this article apply to virtually every publisher out there, sometimes more than they apply to Nintendo itself, and yet Nintendo is singled out.

      And btw, how do you choose which questions get asked?

    • azariosays

      I don’t “choose” them. I make notes of every comment or tweet we get and add it to the list so when I meet with the pubs or devs I ask them. Simple as that.

      I also keep nothing given to me by pubs or devs. I give it all away to readers. Know this, I am trying to be the best journalist I can be. And I think I’m doing a great job.

    • TrueWiiMaster

      You can ask every question? It seems like that could make for a very long interview.

      That’s also good, but once again, it isn’t what I’m talking about. That’s most relevant for reviews, so that people know your recommendation isn’t bought. I’m talking about the unstated, and presumably also unbought, bias against Nintendo in articles, opinion pieces, etc. This very article goes after Nintendo for not releasing an E3 demo they haven’t had a chance to release, when Nintendo is the only one of the big three that has released E3 demos at all. It claims the Wii U suffers from a lack of exclusives, while the Wii U has the most exclusives of all of the current consoles. It attacks a 4 month delay and dual release, when Sony’s working on releasing a game that’s been in development for 9 years, and has switched platforms entirely! I’m glad that you are trying to be a good journalist, and you are a good writer, but this kind of stuff comes off, to me, like a Democrat talking about a Republican (or vice versa). Biased at least, spinning at worst.

    • azariosays

      But that is why it’s an opinion. I’m not asking you to like it or not. Every member of staff has the option to write any opinion piece they wish to an extent. My voice, to me, is no louder than there’s.

      And also, most of the questions are the same. I keep record of them and it’s never been longer than about 15 or so questions. Cause gamers usually have the same requests for a title they are interested in or want to know more about.

      You seem to think I have some pull with readers, but I’m honestly a Nintendo fan myself. I own a Wii U and 3DS, hell I’m playing Langresser right now. I’m trying to help the company appeal to fans and not press, I don’t see where this is negative when I’m looking forward to the NX in the future. But here we go, I say this and you will deconstruct a comment I wrote out in 1min and try to find something to turn it against me, and go ahead because you’re here meaning for some reason you either care about my opinion and want me to give you attention. Or you feel the need to be heard. And I’ll give you that cause it’s funny how much of a Nintendo apologist you are wen other fans of Nintendo have sent me comments saying they agree with me. You just can’t let it go. Oh well.

    • TrueWiiMaster

      I understand what an opinion is. I was simply saying that you go after Nintendo far more than other companies, even for lesser problems. In this article, you attack Nintendo for not doing something they may or may not do at an E3 that hasn’t happened yet. What other companies get that kind of ridiculous scrutiny?

      “I’m trying to help the company appeal to fans and not press”
      With articles like “Nintendo has personally killed the Fatal Frame series for the West”, I can’t imagine what gave me the idea that you turn people away from and against Nintendo…

      I care little for your opinion in specific, and I seriously doubt I’m being heard by many other than you and Wolfe. I just take issue with your misleading portrayal of a company I like.

      It’s funny, because that’s all relative. Elsewhere (and here, sometimes), I’ve had people agree with me, too. It all depends on where you are, and it certainly doesn’t make a person more or less right. More popular, perhaps, but not more right.

      If I’m simply an apologist, my arguments should be easy to refute, but they’re not. You haven’t even responded to any of my criticisms of your article. You just said you’re an honest, good journalist. When I continued to press you about your actual work, you just attacked me personally. Very upstanding tactic.

    • Wolfe

      Trust me buddy, no one here is interested in your opinion either. And as this is a free public site, you’re pretty much here by choice. So why don’t you mosey back on over to the Nintendo Safezone like you promised to earlier this year when you made your dramatic declaration of being tired of this site, hm?

    • TrueWiiMaster

      That’s exactly what I said. Aside from you and Azario, I doubt many people even look at my comments. I’m not trying to spread the word, just post and discuss (that is the point of the comment section, right?).

      I am here by choice, as are you. You look for me by choice too. I don’t recall ever promising to leave this site. I remember saying this site is becoming more and more biased against Nintendo, and that I thought it was moving away from its original goal, but not that I intended to leave. I kind of enjoy pointing out the bias and/or hypocrisy.

      It makes a lot more sense than someone like you, who professes to hate a company, and spends time and energy attacking it and its fans rather than simply ignoring it. Besides, I’m not against criticism. Nintendo deserves criticism. I’m against unbalanced and/or undue criticism, like when only Nintendo is attacked for a problem shared by many publishers/developers.

    • Wolfe

      God but you do amuse me so. So much butthurt.

    • TrueWiiMaster

      Where?

    • Wolfe

      Several things to note about this guy (regardless of which sock puppet he comes in through).

      -He comments only on Nintendo articles that are unflattering to the company and ONLY said articles.

      -He goes right for an attempted character assassination of the writer of whatever article he’s setting up base on.

      -He repeatedly cites having ‘made an argument’ and constantly claims they are ‘not being refuted or addressed’ no matter how long or considerate the responses (which usually do just that).

      These are the trademarks of a shill or fanboy. He’s never going to have anything more to add. His only purpose here is to defend his employer/nostalgia.

    • TrueWiiMaster

      -Actually, I occasionally comment on Sony and anime articles, and when they show up I comment on positive Nintendo articles. You’re going to have to work on your stalking. It seems lacking since I locked my history.

      -The only thing I’ve said about this writer’s character is that he’s biased, and I’ve shown examples of that bias. He’s gone after my character, though not as desperately and awkwardly as you have, but I haven’t gone after his.

      -Show me where this writer responded to any of my criticisms with anything other than “I’m a good journalist” or something along those lines. And really, you of all people are in a poor place to make this point. You usually just respond with insults (or threats, when you’re really desperate).

    • Wolfe

      Oh they tried the first few articles you showed up in. At this point everyone knows it’s useless. You don’t care about reasoned criticism, you care about playing White Knight. So everytime one of these articles show up, you’re going to be here to lob insults and pretend to be a moderate voice of reason.

      You’re not. And you played that card so many times that any regulars here can see it and know exactly what to expect when your name appears below. Because you only comment on threads that question the Big N. Because you always repeat the same tactics. Because you always pretend you don’t care, but you just can’t help showing up to wag your finger.

      Eventually, everyone’s going to just stop responding to you. And you know what they say: The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.

    • TrueWiiMaster

      Tried what? And who’s “they”?

      “you’re going to be here to lob insults”
      I haven’t posted a single insult here, and yet you, and Azario, both have. In general, I don’t insult people. I have no desire to tear anyone down.

      I’m not sure what you’re responding to here. I’m not what? And as I said, I do occasionally comment on non-Nintendo articles. As a primarily Nintendo gamer, I am most interested in Nintendo articles, though. I’d post on positive articles more if they showed up. I’d even offer my own critique of Nintendo if I thought it was deserved.

      You’ve threatened that for a long time, and yet you can’t help but respond to me. Even when I make a point of avoiding you, at your request, you find me. Sometimes you find someone else, say they’re me, and respond to them. If you want to stop responding to me, go ahead. Or don’t. I don’t care.

    • Wolfe

      Gotta hand it to ya for having the tolerance to deal with the same handful of PR mouthpieces every time you do your job. For what it’s worth, the rest of us thank you for it.

    • Wolfe

      Before I even read the article, I knew whose name to expect below. I was not disappointed.

    • azariosays

      I wonder what would have happened if I went through with my “The Life and Death of Miitomo” opinion piece :X

    • Wolfe

      More of what we see here anytime someone dares question the nostalgia factory that is Big N, ultimately.

    • TrueWiiMaster

      That sounds more interesting than this article, assuming you have something to base it on. I don’t have a problem with Nintendo being criticized (they did make Amiibo Festival, after all), only with unbalanced and/or undue criticism. Criticizing Nintendo for possibly not releasing an E3 demo, when nobody but Nintendo releases E3 demos in the first place, for example.

    • Steve Baltimore

      You should’ve went with my idea of how all the censoring they have done over the last year has created an image problem for them. I am genuinely curious to see how they are gonna get Western 3rd party support on what I’m sure most people will see as a “kiddie” console.

    • TrueWiiMaster

      Man, it’s been a while. I had actually started to forget about you.

    • Wolfe

      Oh, I doubt that. I’m no doubt on a long list you keep by the bedside of ‘enemies of Nintendo’ or some such.

    • TrueWiiMaster

      Nah. Despite what you think, I really don’t care that much. I post here, and that’s about it. Besides, you’re the one who remembered me and responded to me here. Maybe you’re the one keeping a list?

    • Wolfe

      You’re a terrible liar, but that’s long been established, TrueShillMaster.

    • TrueWiiMaster

      When did I lie?

    • Wolfe

      Where don’t you?

    • TrueWiiMaster

      I have a few hefty posts right here. Copy and paste one of my supposed lies, if they’re so common.

  • Panpopo

    I don’t have a problem that it’s just Zelda that they’re showed at E3, but that they’re only showing the Wii U version. This would have been a perfect opportunity to showcase the NX version, and by extension the NX console itself. E3 is not as powerful as they were in the past, but the name still holds weight, especially among casual or non-gamers. I am curious how they are going to advertise the NX to the mass casual market, considering the console is coming out after the holidays and before the next E3.

  • Steve Baltimore

    I’m not really Nintendo’s target costumer anymore so quite frankly I don’t care what they do or do not do at E3. However I think this is a dumb move when your gonna try to push hardware soon.

  • Stealth

    Pushing hardware has nothing to do with E3. Never has. If they have there own event in September which is rumored, it will garner as many views and coverage as E3 would.

    • Steve Baltimore

      No it won’t, Sony and MS got a lot more reach from E3 than they didn’t their own announcement events.

    • Stealth

      Sonys PS4 announcement event got way more mainstream coverage.

    • Steve Baltimore

      Right, but E3 is targeted at actual gamers so it sill had better reach, and if you remember correctly MS’s XBone event was a disaster.

    • Stealth

      My only point is devs are leaving E3 like the plague and foot traffic is the lowest it has been in years.

      It does not matter if people watch online if the actual event is finished….

    • Steve Baltimore

      Because no money is made from the online ads and sponsorship’s

    • Stealth

      When no dev wants to do it anymore. shows over

  • Stealth

    I had no idea there were so many pro E3 fanboys who are living in a dreamland that E3 is still relevant to game companies…………..lesson learned.