TMS#FE Co-Director Comments on Western Release

Monday, June 27th, 2016

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Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE | oprainfall

A tweet has recently surfaced from the co-director of Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE commenting on the Western release of his game. Mitsuru Iwata tweeted the following on the 20th.

And here is the translation:

Come to think of it, Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE release date is this week on 24th isn’t it! For various reasons we had to change some outfits, contents of events and vocals, but I think the outfits of the overseas version are quite cute! If you live overseas and own a Wii U by all means buy the game!

This also comes to light at the same time as a fan restoration patch for Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE is released by GBAtemp, restoring all the content to the original Japanese version with the localised text (with the exception of the hot springs DLC). To use this patch will require Wii U homebrew and a dumped .iso for the game. We won’t link to it here but it is available elsewhere if anybody is interested.

Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE released on June 24th in North America and Europe exclusively for Wii U.

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  • Mr0303

    Well he’s trying to sell his game, so his comments are understandable.

    The issue is not about whether the Western costumes are cute or not, but rather artistic integrity and getting the original experience without being treated like a child.

    • Smug

      What else people is expecting him to say anyway? Censorship sucks so please fire my ass?

  • j0eeyy_p

    I’ll be buying this used at some point. But I will say that the fan restoration patch practically is baiting piracy as it won’t work with physical copies of the game from any region so you have to use an .iso. I do feel for this guy and the folks at Atlus as I’m pretty sure the censorship wasn’t their call.

    • Thiefofhearts

      It’s simple. You make sure to own a legal copy of the retail version before you get the iso that serves as your “personal backup” with all legal protections it has as your own personal property.

      This will encourage “piracy” as much as encouraging people only buy used copies.

    • bobmlord

      If you have a modded wiiU creating an iso of the disc is easy. It’s also not legal to download a copy as a backup even if you own the game.

    • Thiefofhearts

      US law statute, please?

    • bobmlord

      https://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp

      Can I Download a Nintendo ROM
      from the Internet if I Already Own the Authentic Game?

      There is a good deal of misinformation on the Internet regarding the backup/archival copy exception. It is not a “second copy” rule and is often mistakenly cited for the proposition that if you have one lawful copy of a copyrighted work, you are entitled to have a second copy of the copyrighted work even if that second copy
      is an infringing copy. The backup/archival copy exception is a very narrow limitation relating to a copy being made by the rightful owner of an authentic game to ensure he or she has one in the event of damage or destruction of the authentic. Therefore, whether you have an authentic game or not, or whether you have possession of a Nintendo ROM for a limited amount of time, i.e. 24 hours, it is illegal to download and play a Nintendo ROM from the Internet.

    • Thiefofhearts

      Not a legal US statute and Nintendo has about much rights as an old man on his property yelling at kids playing Football across the street. Thanks for playing.

    • bobmlord

      It is based on the legal statute of the U.S. and the interpretation of the fair use and backup laws as interpreted by previous court rulings on the subject.

      You can read more about it here
      http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-digital.html

      you or someone you authorize may make a copy of an original computer program if: the new copy is being made for archival (i.e., backup) purposes only; you are the legal owner of the copy; and any copy made for archival purposes is either destroyed, or
      transferred with the original copy, once the original copy is sold,
      given away, or otherwise transferred.

      and here
      https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/117

      With rulings and how they have changed or defined it here
      http://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/faqs/law-changes/

    • bobmlord

      Notice it specifically mentions you have to be the one to create the backup

    • j0eeyy_p

      but it’s possible to get the iso without getting a used copy first if you look on the internet.

      You could however buy the legit copy afterwards and say you ripped it from that to cover it up.

    • Firion Hope

      Import then, everyone wins that way

    • j0eeyy_p

      Not worth a Japanese Wii U just for this.

    • Firion Hope

      just the game then since you download this to play it

    • j0eeyy_p

      It works with an .iso of the localised version. I don’t even need to buy the game legit in order to use the patch.

    • Firion Hope

      yeah I meant if someone wants to support atlus without supporting censorship thats the best way to go about it

  • bobmlord

    So can we stop calling it censorship if the creator of the game actually likes the changes?

    • Mr0303

      Can we stop calling limiting the press in North Korea censorship if the government ordered it?

    • bobmlord

      That analogy doesn’t even come close to making sense

    • Mr0303

      Argument from personal incredulity.

    • bobmlord

      And that doesn’t work as the is based on the assumption that something can’t happen because someone can’t understand how it can happen.

      The analogy literally doesn’t work on a functional level.

    • Mr0303

      It does though – it is an equally stupid reason to excuse censorship to the one that you gave.

    • bobmlord

      In case 1. We have a change the creator of a product is ok with with minor edits made for cultural differences.

      In case 2 we have an authoritarian regime being ok with changing something but not the creators which strips all reason and intent from a message in it’s entirety in order to brainwash a group of people.

    • Mr0303

      In case 1 you can’t claim that the creator is OK with the edits. If you look at the message he says that they “had to” make changes. He didn’t say he’s OK with that.

      Both are censorship despite how much you dance around it – in both cases the original message of the game/article is altered to promote an agenda.

    • bobmlord

      What agenda I dare ask is being promoted by this. Please don’t say feminism

    • Mr0303

      Feminism. :^)

    • Mety1945@superrito.com

      xD you legitimately made me laugh

    • j0eeyy_p

      I’d argue third-wave feminism combined with Western cutural imperialism.

    • Paychi

      Disliking the answer doesn’t make it untrue. The gaming industry, for the most part, has fallen to pressure from gaming journalists who aren’t actual gamers, but people using a platform to police language and creativity because of their false sense of moral superiority and self importance.

      See also: Cultural Authoritarianism, 3rd Wave Feminism, Political Correctness

    • Vanadise

      First, you’re assuming that he *actually* likes the changes, and this isn’t just a case of a Japanese businessman saying what he believes is best for business.

      Second, whether something is censorship or not depends on the motivation for why the content was changed, not how much anybody liked it.

    • bobmlord

      We have your random assumption vs the words of the creator

    • Thiefofhearts

      The creator is not impartial as he has other vested interests on why he might say this. It’s hard to take his word at face value, especially given the climate of a Japanese business.

    • bobmlord

      And this poster does not have interests which could cloud his opinion and judgement?

      We have what has been said anything else is just speculation

    • Thiefofhearts

      As is the person’s right since it’s HIS personal judgement but has nothing to lose if he agrees or disagrees. The co-director however DOES have the possibility of something to lose. That’s what makes this hard to accept at face value. If he was no longer employed, or he owned the company, that could be weighed against the idea of coercion.

      If the boss at a Christmas party dresses up as Santa and asks all the female employees to get on his knee, and they do, are they doing so because they want to, or because they’re concerned if they go against the grain it will hurt their chances at further employment and fired for some BS reason?

    • Vanadise

      Have you ever read a single interview with a Japanese businessman? They are always 100%, entirely dedicated to saying whatever they think will improve their business. They have no personal opinions, and the only opinions they *do* have are ones that have been approved by their marketing department.

      But good job ignoring the second half of my post.

    • bobmlord

      Have you seen how Japanese businessmen tend to be be more open on sites like twitter and not in official interviews? Take Kamiya as an example.

    • Vanadise

      And there’s the exception that proves the rule. Kamiya in particular has a reputation for being incredibly honest and outspoken; very few public representatives of Japanese companies behave like him.

    • Thiefofhearts

      Oh, I agree! We should also stop calling it slavery if the people there really like being in chains and told what to do!

      Changes were made to the original work. That’s censorship. To say the creator liked it means nothing outside of him wanting to keep his job and not rock the boat.

    • bobmlord

      You’re literally equating slavery to some outfit edits in a game that the creator of the game liked and approves of.

    • Thiefofhearts

      My Equation is that a “horrible thing” is not simply justified and acceptable because someone it was done to likes it or doesn’t mind it. Both practices are abominable on their basic level. It doesn’t matter who thinks it’s okay.

    • bobmlord

      One is abominable on easily definable and common moral grounds outlined in multiple schools of thought. The other is your personal opinion that a change the creator of something approves is bad because it is a change is not

    • Thiefofhearts

      And censorship isn’t abominable? I know there’s been a case of editing and removing out parts of works to make it more “acceptable” to audiences. Thomas Bowdler thought he was doing a good thing by heavily editing out Shakespere so women and children could watch a version of a play, but imagine if Bowdler’s version of Hamlet was the only one that survived to the modern age.

      We’d think that Ophellia just died in a swimming accident instead of the possible idea that she may have committed suicide after suffering severe depression. That nuance is now dead.

    • Vanadise

      No, he is not. He is equating you trying to redefine the word “censorship” with trying to redefine the word “slavery.”

    • bobmlord

      The strict definition of the word censorship which you seem requires there be an authority such as a governing body requiring the changes
      noun: censorship
      the practice of officially examining books, movies, etc., and suppressing unacceptable parts.

      Notice the word officially.

      I guess it could be considered voluntary self induced censorship.

    • Vanadise

      The word “officially” does not contain “government” in it. If you’re going to quote the dictionary:

      official
      noun
      1. a person appointed or elected to an office or charged with certain duties.

      The next important word is “office”, and:

      office
      noun

      3. a business or professional organization:

      If an official employee of Nintendo decided to change material because they decided it was unacceptable here, that’s censorship.

    • morzinbo

      Why not link the entire definition instead of the one that suits your needs? You just swept your entire premise off its own feet.

    • BurgerUnit

      Saying they “had” to change various things sounds like censorship to me.

    • darkgamer001

      For various reasons WE HAD TO change some outfits….
      If that is an accurate translation, I think people can come to their own conclusions, no?

    • Tristan (Chili1)

      The creator stated that “unfortunately” Japan and the US apparently can’t have the same content in the comments below his tweet.

      And there’s a difference between okaying something/being okay with something and actually wanting it in the first place. If he wanted it changed in the first place, it’d be changed in the Japanese version as well. No, its still censorship.

      http://i.imgur.com/RtBACCu.png

    • Narmy

      Wow, Bing sucks at translating.

    • MusouTensei

      I’m going to make a game, then I release a german version of it uncensored and a english version were all female character wear burqas and don’t talk, and you will like it.

    • AI◎BA

      Of course he likes it. Or else he would be fired

  • DizzyGear

    I’d love to hear these reasons.

  • Firion Hope

    Of course hed say that, he’d be burning bridges otherwise. Now whether he actually cares is a mystery, but someone in that position would never say “yeah it really sucks that ninty made us censor this, you guys should import and use the fan patch instead” in a million years

  • Tristan (Chili1)

    If you look below that tweet in the replies it looks like he seems to be under the impression the changes were necessary for its Western release, which is simply not true. I wish someone could explain that to him.

  • Dgnfly

    This co-director really has no pride in the sense he’ll gladly butchered the intended version for the sake of narrowminded morons and then he feels we need to buy it while completely ignoring thefact they should have listened to their fanbase in the first place.

  • Audie Bakerson

    Why aren’t you learning Nipponese?