Xenoblade Chronicles X Streaming Reveals Controversy

Sunday, April 26th, 2015

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First off, I’m going to say that if you are at work, this is probably not an article you should be reading. So let’s label it NSFW.

Lucky folks in Japan have managed to get their hands on Xenoblade Chronicles X where it releases there on April, 29th. Some of those folks are streaming as they play on twitch and hitbox. This has given us the chance to see the game content including the various outfits such as this outfit shared by the hitbox user BSpowerx:
Xenoblade Chronicles X controversy

Now I’m not usually one to care about how scantily dressed video game characters are made in video games. My personal feelings are that the creators should be able to make the game in-line with their own creative vision. That and as a regular visitor of a local waterpark, seeing girls in very revealing bikinis is pretty much the norm for me; girls as young as six mind you.

But when I saw this outfit in Xenoblade Chronicles X even I had to admit that perhaps Monolith Soft went too far. It’s not the outfit that bothers me; it’s the fact that the character that is wearing the outfit is 13. Yes that is the underboob of a 13 year old.

I’ll note that this is the Japanese version of the game, and the Japanese culture tends to be a bit more “open-minded” with things like this. It is certainly possible that Nintendo will do some censoring and this outfit will not make the cut for the Western version of the game.

Xenoblade Chronicles X is the game I am most looking forward to playing this year being such a huge fan of the first Xenoblade game. So regardless,  I will be buying and enjoying this game. Still, I’ll pose the question to you all:

Is it too much or do I and others that feel it is too much need to loosen up a bit?

 

 

About Ryan Tyner

Ryan is an owner and manager of the oprainfall website, mostly managing changes needed for the website and maintenance. He also writes articles from time-to-time. His gaming interests include mostly RPGs; both Western and Japanese. Ryan has a graduate degree in psychology.




  • Roberto Ruiz Contreras

    They will probably pump the age up or have an undershirt made into the character model for the final release in the states.

    • Ryan_oprainfall

      That’s a probable outcome.

    • MusubiKazesaru

      I’d prefer this particular one get taken out over something like a perma-undershirt.

    • Roberto Ruiz Contreras

      I’m not sure that is actually a costume, if you played the previous title then you know that you can remove the armor on any character, so this could be just the character not wearing a shirt, that is why Permanent Undershirt is a huge possibility.
      And age bump is almost always in the US release of games.

    • MusubiKazesaru

      There’s also a possibility of it not being it and in the case of Fiora later on as well as Melia there’s more revealing stuff that isn’t their base clothing, so it could be either.

    • Dogi

      They shouldn’t do anything.

      There aren’t a whole lot of people left alive. a 13 year old wearing what’s basically a bikini top is less important than survival.

    • Keichi Morisato

      most likely both.

  • JDobbs

    I think NOA will alter the outfit. While I am not for censorship, I am for certain localization changes to better fit western tastes. There are certain implications that don’t need to be there. All it would do is stir up controversy and negative publicity by the media.

    • Ryan_oprainfall

      I agree. In the end I’m buying the game regardless but I really don’t see the point of including this outfit for Lyn if it’s going to ruffle feathers. Usually I’m not for censorship either but sometimes it is appropriate if it can legitimately effect sales.

    • VanFinale

      A random piece of armor that can be equipped by one NPC in a game that is possibly 100s of hours long will not effect sales. The only way it would is if someone on a high horse tried to call attention to it saying how wrong it is and that it should be stopped. However this will end just like every other moral outrage from GTA to Dragon’s Crown. It will give the game a huge amount of press it otherwise would not get and make it sell better.

    • Eh

      “While I am not for censorship, I am for censorship when I don’t like it.”

      Nice one.

  • tanki motoko

    How is this nsfw?

    • Ryan_oprainfall

      eh well better safe than sorry. I know my own employer would not appreciate me reading an article showing a 13 yr old’s underboob while at work.

    • tanki motoko

      It’s not even that detailed though, it’s pretty ignorable.

    • ebrietas

      Wouldn’t your employer only know that because you wrote it in the article. I was starting to wonder what the big deal was until you mentioned the age.

      I don’t see what the big deal is either, btw, they could just change the age of the character instead of changing anything but westerners are scared of breasts for some reason… All while glorifying sex.

    • Ryan_oprainfall

      I wasn’t at work when I wrote the article.

      NSFW is just a label for the people that might want it. Honestly it’s not anything to get riled up about.

      I’m sure they will raise the age to 16.

      I’m not scared of breasts, quite the opposite. Doesn’t mean I want to see the underboobs of a 13 year old though.

    • Anonymoose

      It’s not a 13 year old, though. It’s a mass of polygons with a texture applied on top of it.

    • Ryan_oprainfall

      true enough. If they had drawn her completely nude or another younger girl completely nude would it be ok in your view? I think there can still be a line with fictional characters, even if fictional.

    • Thomas Zell

      Most employers woukld not appreciate their workers browsing ANYTHING that is not work related at work. Where do you get one of these supposed “jobs” where workers are allowed to sit around and browse the internet all day? Do they pay well? What qualifications do you need? What did I do wrong in my life that lead to me never having such a job?

  • Darrick Dahl

    I don’t think they even have to change it. Just don’t wear the outfit.

    Though she probably will get an age bump and the costume being altered. I’ve seen 13 year old’s wearing worse at the mall. Which is horrifying their parents let them leave the house.

    • Ryan_oprainfall

      If true that is indeed horrifying though I doubt their parents “let” them do anything.

    • Darrick Dahl

      That is most likely completely true.

  • Josh A. Stevens

    What is the big deal about this? Xenoblade Chronicles X is a Japanese game made for Japanese players who live in Japan, where the age of consent is 13. To the target audience, the character is of legal age.

    It’s also worth noting that as “localisations” are never simply called “translations”, when the game finally makes its way overseas, there will be aspects that will change to fit the sensibilities of the target foreign markets. Take a look at Bravely Default for example, where the 15 year old Edea Lee wore the revealing Bravo Bikini during a sidequest. When the game was released overseas, Edea Lee became an 18 year old and the Bravo Bikini was altered to be more revealing – the very same thing will most likely happen here as well.

    I live in the United Kingdom where the age of consent is 16; if I enjoy a work that happened to show the underboob of a 16 or 17 year old, would that be controversial and have the internet debating if I was a paedophile being pandered to as well, just because the character depicted is lower than the average age of consent in the United States?

    If she character remained 13 and had the outfit remain intact in the North American version of the game, sure there would be something to complain about, but here?

    • Warboss Aohd

      but they announced a worldwide release upon announcement of the game, they basically planned a world wide release from the get go.

      This isn’t a localization thing, they should have known this was going to happen.

  • Daniel Bujes

    Please don’t say Japan is more open minded. That’s misleading as hell. They have had lolita complex issues for a very long time. Sexualizing little kids and pedo hentai has been the norm since I was a kid. They also still have tons of issues with portrayals of race and sexuality of men.

    Like SE changing their new FF male character for being too sexy but keeping the female Cid in hot pants and increasing her boob size to pop out of her shirt and bra more. They are just terribly sexist as a culture and people never call them out on it, which is why it hasn’t changed in the last 20 years.

    • kerbstrar

      go cry on tumblr, faggot

    • Darko

      Go circlejerk with the reat of the SJW crazies at tumblr.

    • Eh

      They made Noctis look more asian. He was never made “less sexy.”
      They never increased Cidney’s bust size. Also Final Fantasy XV is made almost entirely to appeal to women you fucking dolt. Do you even know what “fujoshi” means? Maybe if you people paid fucking attention to their culture instead of ignoring fucking everything Japanese then you’d see that, but nope, you guys bitch about “muh sexism” and “muh lack of female leads” while games like Trails in the Sky bomb financially because you hypocrites won’t touch anything Japanese since “they’re all sexist pedos.”

    • Thomas Zell

      You have a very important job to do, as a non-Japanese, possibly white and/or American person, it is your duty to comment on foreign cultures and help bring them up to the level of the west.

  • Taiyaki

    I don’t see anything wrong with that outfit. No need to alter it, that would create an outburst of rage from fans. Those who watch anime know that this stuff happens all the time anyway.

  • Heath Bunch

    Can’t stand self-censorship. Show the game to the ESRB, and only make changes if absolutely necessary. I mean, hell, the ESRB gave Criminal Girls a pass for pete’s sake. This is beyond tame in comparison.

    • Keichi Morisato

      they gave it pass ONLY after some light censorship.

    • Heath Bunch

      They censored it before even showing it to the ESRB. Its what they’ve been doing with all those games. They should present it uncensored to the ESRB, and then only if the ESRB says if it would get an AO rating, then they could censor it.

  • Kuroneko

    L-lewd.

    • Nonscpo

      Only if you think of it that way! Don’t worry somebody will censor it, they always do.

  • Atticus

    Oh god SJWs are coming
    Adult shit is lower in Japan
    Sex is more open in Japan
    Japan doesn’t “shame” there bodys like ppl in rest the world “omg I have tits/dick I need to fear for my life that I have body parts!”

    You know countless under age japan chars way before this? Oh you don’t due they had there age “magicly” relisted in west that some how magicly changes everything?

    If its like Xenobalde you know what you can do? DON’T USE IT
    This like GTA Hooker shit there no point in game were your “forced” to kill a hooker it is a “player” driven act to do so or not

    Plz don’t turn some SJW shitlord site I like this place I hate it end up like some many shity places when comes to “video game news”

    • Pyrotek85

      Agreed, this is a non-issue, there is no ‘controversy’. For Gods’ sake it’s all fictional anyhow, why not just cry about the violence inherent to the title too?

    • Atticus

      Must missed the “controversy” over http://i.imgur.com/99xuW.jpg as far I can she is 15 or 16 depending on where you look at

    • Atticus

      And by Controversy I mean where no one said jack shit about it
      (This post should of been below the pic below)

    • TheNintendoBox

      your entire post became garbage when you used sjw, if you want to be taken serious, dont resort to using strawmen to proof your point,

    • Wolfe

      SJW detected.

    • Darko

      Go back to tumblr you moralist thugs.

    • Atticus

      I guess the image is clearly a strawman then

    • Thomas Zell

      I personally prefer the term “Justice Equality Warrior”.

    • Thomas Zell

      Rape happens less in Japan. This is a problem since it makes it harder for professional victims to find jobs in that country.

    • Atticus

      Truthfully and this just me but I think sex crimes happen less in japan due to the fact there vary “open” about it vs “OMG KEEP IT HIDDEN FROM ALL THE WORLD NO ONE MUST KNOW I THINK ABOUT SEX” in USA

  • Nameless App 1989

    Makes me wonder if they’ll censor Fatal Frame 5? It does have an eyebrow-raising costume for a character who’s 17 YO.

  • VanFinale

    She isn’t a real person why does no one understand this. The reason child pornography and age of consent laws exist is to protect children from engaging in sexual activities. Which they do not have the mental or emotional experience to properly understand. It also protects from being victimized by adults who are in a position of power. None of this applies to fictional characters that are computer generated or that an artist draws. They cannot be victimized or hurt they don’t exist. Look at novels like Lolita which involve an adult man having a sexual relationship with a 12-year old girl. It is widely considered a classic and in fact I had to read it for high school. Mediums like novels, comics, and video games are places where artists can explore taboo subjects like this safely without hurting actual people. Stop trying to silence creators just because you find something offensive to you, please.

    • Pyrotek85

      They’re under the false assumption that it’s somehow going to cause people to act or think differently all of a sudden, but it’s not. Just as rock music or violent video games failed to induce such a change, neither will this.

    • azariosays

      Hm, I never thought of it like that. I agree.

    • Pyrotek85

      The bigger problem is that the West is extra moral panicky about anything sex-related, whereas we’re pretty blatant about how much we love our violence. Even though the most of the violence depicted is illegal and sex isn’t, but hey what’s a little hypocrisy when you get to have a nice outrage over nothing?

    • wyrdwad

      Well said. I wholeheartedly agree.

  • Audie Bakerson

    Yes, loosen up. You’re complaining that commands to display a bunch tiny lights in a certain patern are horrible things, despite presenting no harm to anybody (except to those with a history of seizures). It’s not a person.

    If you acknowledge they present not harm, think long and hard about why you think someone else’s work should be changed despite not harming anyone, and why YOUR morality is the only one that deserves enforcement.

  • Dogi

    Loosen up.

  • Death Saved

    eh its a swimsuit.

  • azariosays

    Loosen up a bit.

  • Jeryn

    Her outfit reminds me of the character from MGS Phantom Pain, Quiet is her name I believe?

    • azariosays

      Needs more ripped tights lol

  • Devon

    Eh..it’s kind of creepy regardless of “cultural differences” tbh. I will probably buy this regardless but we have enough pervy fan service RPGs on the market. For once I’d like to buy an RPG at a store that won’t make me feel embarrassed when I buy it.

  • Raziel Barkrai

    Where’s the controversy? It doesn’t sound like there’s a group outraged by this and no one else has brought this up besides you. If it gets changed, fine. It’s so minor in comparison to what the game as a whole is offering that most people would probably not even notice unless they went out of their way to find differences between the localized and original versions.

  • wyrdwad

    God, I hope they don’t change it, nor change her age. Hoping for art to be censored or altered because it doesn’t mesh with American moral standards is… kind of awful, in my opinion. It’s a very, very slippery slope, and if the outfit is censored OR the age of the character raised, I absolutely will not purchase this game in English.

    To answer the various questions you’ve posed, I do think you need to loosen up a bit, I would be fine if they drew her completely nude (there’s nothing wrong with the human body), and as far as I’m concerned, there is absolutely no line to be crossed with fictional characters — they are art, not people. The age of the character isn’t 13, it’s actually in the single digits, because this character did not exist 13 years ago. And that’s fine by me. Creators can do what they please with their own creations, and if we as customers dislike what they’ve done, it’s up to us to let them know by not buying the product in question. The decision should not be forced upon us by publishers.

    Sorry if my tone sounds a bit harsh here, but this is something I’ve always felt very strongly about. I believe in artistic integrity, no matter how risque or offensive said art may be, and I feel that those who call for the censorship of any art for any reason are very much in the wrong.

    • Pyrotek85

      I fully agree, I abhor censorship. What kind of harm do people think this might even cause in the first place?

  • xShinzanx

    I honestly don’t care… xD

  • Blue

    They’re gonna go Bravely Default on XCX and make it a full blown one-piece swim suit

  • masked_spartan

    My opinion on this:

    1. I’m not offended by the content. People need to be more chill and just let stuff like this go. It doesn’t harm anyone. It’s a video game.
    2. Regardless, it will probably be changed when brought over to U.S., by either age bump or costume alteration.
    3. They shouldn’t overdo these types of changes. I kind of get it since she is 13, but Nintendo has also done this for characters like Tharja from Fire Emblem, who are presumably older. (Specifically, in the fanservice DLC, where they censored her ass in a swimsuit.) I think those kinds of changes are silly.

  • Keichi Morisato

    as a Floridian, i see younger girls wearing less cloths on a pretty daily basis. if anyone is worried about the scantily clad young girl in this game, don’t EVER go to Miami.

    • Mr.Sammich

      don’t EVER go to Miami.

      Yeah, that seems about right.

  • Ricky Esparza

    I’m guessing they’ll bump up her age to 16 or something. 13 is a legal age for them.

  • Warboss Aohd

    come on Japan……what were you thinking?

  • Alan Van Dalsem

    pretty sure the localization will make her age “18”. While the outfit’s bikini top is arguably “revealing”.

    IMO it’s kinda dumb to generate a “controversy” about this when stores
    in the US sale certain styles of two-piece bikini’s that many girls WAY
    under 18 wear, and those are just as questionable. Nintendo can easily
    remove the outfit from the game.

  • Thanatos2k

    There is nothing NSFW about that picture. None.

    This article is a sad pathetic joke. There is no controversy. There should be no changes. And you should be ashamed for suggesting that there should be.

  • DeusEx

    Hey, if you are not comfortable with sexuality of underaged fictional characters, why are you still interested in Japanese media? They worship youth and the female form in their culture, in this case you get both at the same time.

    If you don’t like it, don’t buy it and go somewhere else for your fun?

    Don’t ruin my fun. I’m an adult who can understand the cultural differences and I know the difference between fantasy and reality.

  • FireFan

    Fake controversy for views. I thought Op rainfall was above this bullshit.

  • enigmaxtreme

    You have seen the alternate outfits in the Japanese releases of Fatal Frame 4 and 5 have you?….go ahead and google them

  • Sentsuizan_93

    Eh. In my opinion, it’s just optional attire.
    Granted, she’s 13, but I don’t think it’s ideal to start a row over an OPTIONAL piece of attire because of one’s age.
    If you don’t want to equip that piece of attire in particular, you can just, not use it.
    Besides, there’s 100s of hours of gameplay to be had here, and I’m more concerned about a release date for NA/EU audiences for this game than some optional costume that you can just not equip if you don’t want to use it.

  • tiz

    They’ll probably do what was done with bravely default. Make their official age older and add a little more censoring when it comes to NA.
    I can’t say I agree with what they did, but at least it was localized right?

  • Darko

    Oh goody SJW tumblr censor crazy nuts screwing things up again for the rest. Get it though your oversensitive skulls and just go away.

  • Alan Van Dalsem

    have you been to a beach lately? 13 yr olds here in California are wearing tiny, two-piece string bikinis. This one outfit isn’t too different from those.
    Sure that one outfit’s top is questionable, but Nintendo can easily remove it or alter the character’s age to “18”. This is doesn’t have to be a “controversy” at all.